What is this Panjo crap

[Kershaw]

Took me all of three minutes to register with panjo and make an ad

Right.

Goddamn, people hate change, haha.

Thanks James and mods for the experience we get. R3v is awesome and it wouldn't be awesome without their guidance. Just look at e30tech.

[agent]

I bet you could raise the $600 and even more if you run a quick fundraiser here and do so every year, heck you can even run it until you get to the amount you so feel entitled to keep the site running. The real people who are passionate and really care for this site and it's harmony will chip in right away.

$600 was the deficit James paid out of pocket for the picnic. I don't know the yearly cost to keep the forum going, but I'd be willing to bet it's a lot more than that.

[Matt-B]

Actually panjo makes it easier for scammers to look more legit. They don't do shit if you get scammed, been there and that's why I left Bf for good. I bet you could raise the $600 and even more if you run a quick fundraiser here and do so every year, heck you can even run it until you get to the amount you so feel entitled to keep the site running. The real people who are passionate and really care for this site and it's harmony will chip in right away.

I have heard of the scammers getting really clever aswell. I wont be using panjo, and if I need to buy a part, will try to buy locally or new. Will also just sell my stuff locally. Im not a fan, but it looks like its here to stay regardless.

Id be more then happy to chip in towards r3v, i thought we did that in the past when James had to spend like 3000$ on parts or whatever for the servers and whatnot.

[IDM]

Actually panjo makes it easier for scammers to look more legit. They don't do shit if you get scammed, been there and that's why I left Bf for good. I bet you could raise the $600 and even more if you run a quick fundraiser here and do so every year, heck you can even run it until you get to the amount you so feel entitled to keep the site running. The real people who are passionate and really care for this site and it's harmony will chip in right away.

[Dj Buttchug]

I think we're only worried since we really like this forum and don't want it to die from something as trivial as a sales mechanism. I would say that if the moderators are overworked they should reach out to people and ask for more mods to a point, as too many is another great way to kill a forum.

True. The other issue is policing transactions. Increasing mod count does not fix the issue of disputes. The banjo is suppose to handle this? If most here are rejecting or will reject it won't we be in the same boat if payal is still the primary use of goods transfer?

[KDAWG97M3]

I think if it works for the largest BMW forum in the world, it will probably end up working okay for us.

It's hypocritical to make the argument that it would be okay to charge a membership fee to participate on this forum, but refuse to let a third party handle the transaction to do so. By advertising through Panjo you actually do contribute funds to the forum, which is more than we can say for 99.98% of everyone who visits here.

It doesn't work and BFC has reduced the amount of stuff for sale. Speak with Kevlar...panjo sucks..he jumped in bed to early...hard to get out..

[roguetoaster]

damn. Lots of flack from everyone so far. Im interested to see how it pans out but as someone mentioned above a specific moderator for each for sale section could potentially work. Myself and many others are active on the site everyday for several hours. For those who have the time and are willing I think it would be a good gesture to offer services to R3v by way of moderation. I know I wouldn't mind keeping a specific section in order. I already remove enough spam as it is...

I think we're only worried since we really like this forum and don't want it to die from something as trivial as a sales mechanism. I would say that if the moderators are overworked they should reach out to people and ask for more mods to a point, as too many is another great way to kill a forum.

[Dj Buttchug]

damn. Lots of flack from everyone so far. Im interested to see how it pans out but as someone mentioned above a specific moderator for each for sale section could potentially work. Myself and many others are active on the site everyday for several hours. For those who have the time and are willing I think it would be a good gesture to offer services to R3v by way of moderation. I know I wouldn't mind keeping a specific section in order. I already remove enough spam as it is...

[2002jm]

was able to post want ad:)

I already have a panjo account and I figured out how to do a want ad, they, panjo, need to work on the program to make it more user friendly:)
I for one would not have a problem with giving to this forum each year to keep it going...if it happens through panjo, that is fine too.
I can not do my projects without this forum!!!:)
jm

[decay]

The world is not free, every month I get hosting bills, we have server upgrades and replacement, licensing fee's, etc.. it all adds up..

James, as a fellow forum admin and a DevOps guy, have you looked into migrating to AWS?

Could represent a significant cost cut. I don't think you'd need a very big instance to handle r3v's traffic.

I run a pub-trivia bot on a p2p network from AWS from their free "micro-instance" tier, and it's been dead reliable since I fired it up.

[tonerrrr]

Sorry about that - it wasn't a clickable link until I edited it, though I may have grabbed too much.

No worries!

[sonomabimmers]

What is this Panjo crap

Took me all of three minutes to register with panjo and make an ad


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[Replicam3cabrio]

If donating is all it takes to keep this forum going, I am all for it, as far as registering with Panjo is a no, I rather junk the parts or list them on ebay, too much of a hassle for nothing.
Sad that I can't even post a wanted ad.

[stonea]

I don't see the problem, James gets some of his life back, r3v gets some money, and the 6% fees aren't mandatory. Bimmerforums have been using Panjo for a while and haven't had any serious problems that I know of. I think in a couple of months we'll all forget about all of this and be using Panjo without second thought. I do think this change would have gone over better if r3v had a heads up though. For those who didn't know what Panjo was before I can see them being sketched out.

[nando]

I see where you are coming from James but saying you can't ask someone to manage the classifieds section is kind of redundant because that's what a moderators job is to moderate the forum.. So as far as that goes make a group of classified only mods. We have many mods maybe add some more to pick up the slack of the one who are no longer as active on the board. I do however feel like Panjo could possible dwindle down the number of forsale threads cause it's human nature to take the path of least resistance and with the old setup it was click and post now with the registering stuff I see many people just saying eff it and either junking said part or only advertise locally through the grape vine per say.


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My "job" is working in engineering. R3v is a hobby. None of us get paid to put up with scammers, spam, and users with bad behavior and attitudes.

None of us have the time to spend all day policing the classifieds. You can get more mods but its still not going to happen.