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  • bmwannabe
    E30 Modder
    • Nov 2003
    • 900

    #1

    Stroker write up

    does anyone have a good link to a stroker write up? I drive a 91 325i, and im looking for a 2.8 or so. read up on the m30 and it didnt sound like it was for me. turnoffs were the added front weight, shortening of driveshaft, ect. plus id like to take apart my engine and craft it myself ( not machining though)
  • Jand3rson
    Banned
    • Oct 2003
    • 37587

    #2

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    • Jon325i
      R3V OG
      • Oct 2003
      • 6934

      #3
      Here's another stroker write-up....



      The only difference in the displacement is which crankshaft you go with. Examples for the "i" spec M20 are:

      ETA crank and retain stock sized bore = 2.7L

      524TD (turbodiesel) crank with 1mm overbore = 2.8L

      ETA crank with 1mm overbore = 2.8L

      M50 crank with 1mm overbore = 2.9L

      S50 crank with 1mm overbore = 3.0L

      Jon

      P.S. The ETA crank and the TD crank offer the same stroke length (81mm I believe). Only difference is the TD crank is forged, the ETA is cast. Forged is great if you plan on turbocharging your M20. Otherwise, the ETA crank should be sufficient.
      Rides...
      1991 325i - sold :(
      2004 2WD Frontier King Cab

      RIP #17 Jules Bianchi

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      • E30godz
        E30 Mastermind
        • Oct 2003
        • 1524

        #4
        Originally posted by Jon325i
        M50 crank with 1mm overbore = 2.9L
        i believe that would be an M52 crank?

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        • Jon325i
          R3V OG
          • Oct 2003
          • 6934

          #5
          Originally posted by E30godz
          Originally posted by Jon325i
          M50 crank with 1mm overbore = 2.9L
          i believe that would be an M52 crank?
          Nope. M52 are the 2.8L engines from the '96-'00 E36 328i/is as well as the Z3 (aluminum block). I don't think the cranks from these OBD II motors can work in an M20. Ditto for the S52 crank (E36 M3 3.2L, '96-'99).

          The M50 engine was in the '92-'95 325i/is E36 cars. The '92 didn't have VANOS but the '93-'95 did.

          Jon
          Rides...
          1991 325i - sold :(
          2004 2WD Frontier King Cab

          RIP #17 Jules Bianchi

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          • Jordan
            R3V OG
            • Oct 2003
            • 12907

            #6
            Pfffft. Strokers are bolt on mods.
            Tenured Automotive Service Professional - Avid BMW Enthusiast

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            • gstuning
              E30 Modder
              • Oct 2003
              • 833

              #7
              Originally posted by Jordan
              Pfffft. Strokers are bolt on mods.
              °

              Strokers are becoming so common these days,
              so are swaps and turbo tricks

              Filter and chip are just old :)
              Gunni
              @ Prodrive / Aston Martin Racing

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              • mikeedler
                R3V OG
                • Feb 2004
                • 6707

                #8
                the crank from the 3.2l euro M3 will work in the M20 block. It just needs some trimming to the inside walls of the block to clear the larger stroke. Ireland eng. will sell this kit too, if you ask. The 3.0 &3.2 ltr cranks just need a sleeve fabricated for the front main seal shaft, on the origional blocks the seal is smaller. a friend of mine just built one, we compared everything.

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                • Fred
                  Mod Crazy
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 659

                  #9
                  Originally posted by gstuning
                  Strokers are becoming so common these days,
                  so are swaps and turbo tricks
                  Yeah, and strangely there was almost zero information about it 2 years ago.

                  '86 325 2.8i stroker - Arctic Blue
                  '11 328i Sports Wagon - LeMans Blue
                  Strictly Eta

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                  • diegom6
                    R3V Elite
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 4447

                    #10
                    wait!! I didn't know about the M50 or S50 crank will fit in our M20, what is required exactly to make them fit, also what piston and rod combos should go with these cranks?

                    That makes me think a bit more of doing a 3.0L stroker...mmm I think I have storage a S50 (Euro) m3 crank in some part of my shopp :twisted:
                    Euro M3'87 NogaroSilver/Euro E34 M5 '93/Porsche 993 TT 97' Euro/Porsche 993 Carrera 95' Euro/Skyline R33 GT-R

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                    • bimmerphile
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 3495

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jon325i
                      Originally posted by E30godz
                      Originally posted by Jon325i
                      M50 crank with 1mm overbore = 2.9L
                      i believe that would be an M52 crank?
                      Nope. M52 are the 2.8L engines from the '96-'00 E36 328i/is as well as the Z3 (aluminum block). I don't think the cranks from these OBD II motors can work in an M20. Ditto for the S52 crank (E36 M3 3.2L, '96-'99).

                      The M50 engine was in the '92-'95 325i/is E36 cars. The '92 didn't have VANOS but the '93-'95 did.

                      Jon
                      Correction, the S52 crank will work, as the dude with the 3.0L iX did. He did something though, like swap it from a timing belt to a timing chain or something..
                      My mountains are better than yours.

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                      • rwh11385
                        lance_entities
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 18403

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Fred
                        Originally posted by gstuning
                        Strokers are becoming so common these days,
                        so are swaps and turbo tricks
                        Yeah, and strangely there was almost zero information about it 2 years ago.
                        It's amazing then. There is an overwhelming wealth of information now. Thank you Fred, and thanks to Dave as well, not to mention all the people involved in maintaining forums to share all this info.

                        Strangely enough all this is becoming popular more than a decade after the end of production. Whereas new cars have turbo kits produced before the car is on the showroom floor.

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                        • E30Adam
                          Advanced Member
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 137

                          #13
                          I have a 2.8 stroker block ready to install into my sport.

                          It was built using a modified M52 2.8 crank, it had to be machined in order to make it ift.
                          The piston skirts also had to be machined to clear the crank webs.

                          I have also just finished building up a new head with a Schrick 284/272 cam and am hoping to get it all together in the next few weeks.

                          Here's a picture or two:



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                          • rwh11385
                            lance_entities
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 18403

                            #14
                            Originally posted by E30Adam
                            Yeah, Adam, but the difference is that sad head only has 1 cam!

                            Lukas = DOHC 8)

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                            • diegom6
                              R3V Elite
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 4447

                              #15
                              Originally posted by E30Adam
                              I have a 2.8 stroker block ready to install into my sport.

                              It was built using a modified M52 2.8 crank, it had to be machined in order to make it ift.
                              The piston skirts also had to be machined to clear the crank webs.

                              I have also just finished building up a new head with a Schrick 284/272 cam and am hoping to get it all together in the next few weeks.

                              Here's a picture or two:



                              adam, what is needed exactly to mke the M52 crank fit in the m20 block? what part of the crank has to be machined?
                              Euro M3'87 NogaroSilver/Euro E34 M5 '93/Porsche 993 TT 97' Euro/Porsche 993 Carrera 95' Euro/Skyline R33 GT-R

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