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  • O 16581 72452 5
    Banned
    • Aug 2006
    • 1066

    #1

    ICV removal/bypass?

    Can't find anything searching, figure i'll ask before i waste money on plugs and stuff to cork the open lines that i'll have from removing this. On some cars, i know it's possible to remove this without any issues, wondering if it's possible on these cars. Probably have to leave the unit in there with the wires connected to avoid a CEL i'm assuming?

    Car idles crappy and runs like absolute shit when cold and intermittantly runs bad after warmed up, figure i'll start at the cheap/free shit before moving to the AFM, O2, etc.
  • Mike325
    No R3VLimiter
    • Mar 2006
    • 3685

    #2
    Do you mean remove it for diag purposes or to get 100% rid of it?
    Originally posted by cabriodster87
    "Honey? What color is this wire? Is it the same as that one? Are you sure? I don't believe it. OK, it works. Thank you sweetie."
    Originally posted by Kershaw
    i've got a boner and a desire to speed.

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    • O 16581 72452 5
      Banned
      • Aug 2006
      • 1066

      #3
      Just ditch it.

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      • MrK
        Mod Crazy
        • Jan 2006
        • 709

        #4
        If you think your car idles like crap now, ditch it and see how much worse it'll get, if you can get it to idle at all :D

        AFM flappers are notoriously horrible at keeping a smooth idle without an ICV.
        This is your M20 on steroids:

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        • O 16581 72452 5
          Banned
          • Aug 2006
          • 1066

          #5
          I see, the car i removed one on was MAP.

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          • redbull 325is
            R3V OG
            • Feb 2004
            • 7471

            #6
            clean the ICV witha tooth brush and some simple green.. works everytime for me.
            Build Threads:
            Pamela/Bella/Betty/325ix/5-Lug Seta/S60R/Miata ITB/Miata Turbo/Miata VVT/951/325xi-6

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            • Digitalwave
              is a poseur
              • Oct 2003
              • 6276

              #7
              Instead of fixing it you just want to throw it away? Nice.

              RISING EDGE

              Let's drive fast and have fun.

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              • O 16581 72452 5
                Banned
                • Aug 2006
                • 1066

                #8
                Originally posted by Digitalwave
                Instead of fixing it you just want to throw it away? Nice.
                Don't see why not if the car runs fine without one. Like stated before, i blocked off one on one of my cars and the idle was better than ever.

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                • Mike325
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 3685

                  #9
                  Idle controle valve. I don't see how it could have a controled idle without this part.
                  Originally posted by cabriodster87
                  "Honey? What color is this wire? Is it the same as that one? Are you sure? I don't believe it. OK, it works. Thank you sweetie."
                  Originally posted by Kershaw
                  i've got a boner and a desire to speed.

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                  • Axxe
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 3355

                    #10
                    I've heard of some M20's running around with it bypassed, and a simple manual valve replaced. Never seen one though, so can't give any insight other than my guesstimate of it being a ball valve from home depot or something along those lines. The same source told me that they are used on race-cammed M20's, just set the idle a bit higher with it, the ICV can't manage the aggressive cam anyway.


                    Keep it slideways!!

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                    • Grimm862
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 215

                      #11
                      The car will idle without a ICV. My friend had a 86 325 and just plugged up the 2 hoses and it worked fine. Just had to warm up a bit for it to idle good.

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                      • equate975
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 3382

                        #12
                        I have heard of people bypassing it then turning the throttle adjustment screw up a ways to compensate for it.
                        Rollin' with a Geistkuchen

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                        • MrK
                          Mod Crazy
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 709

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Axxe
                          the ICV can't manage the aggressive cam anyway.
                          That's funny, my ICV is 'managing' my race cam just fine

                          I still don't see a plausible reason for just eliminating it. BMW put it there for a reason no?
                          This is your M20 on steroids:

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                          • euroshark
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 3491

                            #14
                            You CAN rig the ICM safely and it will only effect the idle when the motor is cold. This is an old trick I learned from the 5 series community. You drill a ~5.2mm hole in the center of a penny, and attach the penny to the outlet side of the ICV with silicone, duct tape, epoxy (the strongest probably) or a combo of the three. Reattach the rubber hose, unplug the ICV and bam! Perfect idle speed. You might have to help it warm up for the first 30 seconds to a minute with your foot, but after that it's usually ok. I did this in my 533i for two months and never had any trouble!! I've got a picture if you want.
                            '88 528e /// '88 M5 /// '89 951 /// '98 E430 /// '02 M5

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                            • O 16581 72452 5
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 1066

                              #15
                              Cool, thanks alot, that's what i wanted to hear.

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