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    #16
    Oh great, looks loke BMW jumped on the honda bandwagon and made their own "SI"...............................( Flame suit on)
    Originally posted by payney8
    We heard economics is american for card game t/f ? :P

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      #17
      1. she can't drive very well at all
      2. i think this might be a throwback to the italian market 320is which, as you all know, had the s14b20 motor, a true baby m3
      3. agreed with the "large car with underpowered 4banger"
      BRUTE

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        #18
        i was comparing late 90's honda's to a 2007 bmw motor. the Type R 1.8L is 200cc smaller yet makes 22 more horsepower and nearly the same torque.

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          #19
          Originally posted by imsotyerred View Post
          1. she can't drive very well at all
          and screams alot. annoying.
          IG: @Baye30

          FRONT VALENCE IS ZENDER!!! STOP FILLING MY PM BOX PPL!!!

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            #20
            I'll take a 335is please

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              #21
              Originally posted by 2002maniac View Post
              I'll take a 335is please
              X 2


              Keep it slideways!!

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                #22
                I like it.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by ptownTSI View Post
                  haha i was just thinking about how slow this "uber-cool" 320si must be. our e30's have 170hp and are about 2700lbs, the 320si is 3135lbs and look how poorly its 173hp stacks up against other "high technology" cars. What was up with BMW deciding not to use VANOS on this one?
                  Variable valve timing isn't allowed in WTCC. Neither is variable intake geometry, ABS, or traction control. Engines are limited to 2000cc, hence the 320si. This car is a homologation special.

                  Sorry if I'm repeating anything that may have been in the video; it stopped playing about 10 seconds in.

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                    #24
                    Although I tend to agree with the high weight, low HP figures, you can't forget that BMW motors always win due to their fat torque curve. (even on the 4s)

                    Bmw motors have never been impressive HP wise.

                    Now ptownsi, please stop with the ricermath.

                    On the note of the 318is.. it was only dull in the USA because you guys got the dual mass flywheel, which kills it, in europe, it's an awesome car.


                    Julien
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                      #25
                      Needs an S42 and it's all good.
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                      ...one of the most hardcore E30's around. :D

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                        #26
                        ricer math? maybe you havent driven a Type R? i wouldnt call them "ricer". Different strokes for different folks. I would like to drive this 320si and see what it's like.

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                          #27
                          It's ricer math purely because HP is just a number.... being able to put down all that HP efficiently is what counts.

                          By your rationale, if cars were bought from thinking how much HP/$, Porsche would have been bankrupt for years. Yet the 911 laps cars with higher HP with no problem.

                          And no FWD will ever put down all it's power efficiently. Having to share steering and power on the same axle will always compromise on traction.
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                          ...one of the most hardcore E30's around. :D

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                            #28
                            It has so much grip because there isn't enough power to be worried about losing traction :P

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by neighborhood View Post
                              Oh great, looks loke BMW jumped on the honda bandwagon and made their own "SI"...............................( Flame suit on)
                              ha!

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