Dynoed my E30 turbo! Boost leak( PICS)

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  • matt325is
    E30 Addict
    • Oct 2003
    • 409

    #16
    That is a little disapointing, but it is a gain, just fix the leak and see what you can do.
    4th gear is what you should be using since it is a 1:1 ratio in the transmission.
    At least you actually dyno'd it, unlike a lot of people after they do mods.

    matt

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    • diegom6
      R3V Elite
      • Oct 2003
      • 4447

      #17
      Originally posted by matt325is
      That is a little disapointing, but it is a gain, just fix the leak and see what you can do.
      4th gear is what you should be using since it is a 1:1 ratio in the transmission.
      At least you actually dyno'd it, unlike a lot of people after they do mods.

      matt
      Of corse is disapointing, I just don't thinkI have that HP level, I know I have more than that, if not how can people explain that I can make the "war" at some Evos V and VII wich are fastest than the VIII...and sucj kind of power in tother cars? Anyway, Tomoroow I will know how much is I'm getting out of my turbo.

      Btw.. I has pinging problem again, but now it doesn't ping in full rpms, instead it does when I shift and the rpms fall then accelerate again and pings a bit, get some more revs in the gear up to the full RPMs and I don't have ping, fuel??? I t wan't doing that before, I think the gas is the problem...
      Euro M3'87 NogaroSilver/Euro E34 M5 '93/Porsche 993 TT 97' Euro/Porsche 993 Carrera 95' Euro/Skyline R33 GT-R

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      • M-technik-3
        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
        • Oct 2003
        • 18946

        #18
        It has to be quality of fuel issue if your pinging again. Seems like it will never be quite right.
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        • diegom6
          R3V Elite
          • Oct 2003
          • 4447

          #19
          Originally posted by M-technik-3
          It has to be quality of fuel issue if your pinging again. Seems like it will never be quite right.
          In this country specially, sometimes the fuel come like shit, other times come acceptable.

          A friend of mine that owns a gas station sells like 84, 90 and 97 ( appart from Diesel) he brought a analyzer octane machine to messure their octanes in his fuel that was getting from the tanks and the company who sells to him.

          The 97 octane resulted in a poor 62 Octane rate gas, INCREDIBLE isn't it? Just with crappy fuel, I just can't believ how the cars runs good after all. I know how the people are here , so the otheror most of all the gas stations should be selling the same fuel as he, but now he is getting poor 97 octane, the rest I think is getting crapp fuel like always.

          The proble is that his gas station is loctaed a bit far from where I live, that suck!
          Euro M3'87 NogaroSilver/Euro E34 M5 '93/Porsche 993 TT 97' Euro/Porsche 993 Carrera 95' Euro/Skyline R33 GT-R

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          • M-technik-3
            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
            • Oct 2003
            • 18946

            #20
            Yipes that's scary. I'd be curious to measure the octane out of pump here and see what measures at.
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            • Digitalwave
              is a poseur
              • Oct 2003
              • 6292

              #21
              Another leak? Is your car ever running without some engine issues?

              RISING EDGE

              Let's drive fast and have fun.

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              • diegom6
                R3V Elite
                • Oct 2003
                • 4447

                #22
                Originally posted by Digitalwave
                Another leak? Is your car ever running without some engine issues?
                yeah sometimes and sometimes not, he vary a lot Finlly I added some serious silicone coupplers on nthe AFM, now it won't make me more troubles, now I'm replacing the shorty rubber from the Tb that connects to the charge pipe.

                By two weeks more I should be putting my fully T4 and my front IC, I will run a new charge pipes systems and most probably will delte the A/C system for propper connections and easy acces.
                Euro M3'87 NogaroSilver/Euro E34 M5 '93/Porsche 993 TT 97' Euro/Porsche 993 Carrera 95' Euro/Skyline R33 GT-R

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                • E30-323ti
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 328

                  #23
                  Keep trying Diego, get all the niggly stuff sorted out and it will come right.
                  Well just over 1/2 what I have ATW's, mind you I do have twice as many cams/valves & turbos as you.
                  Keep us posted on your progress.


                  Pinging is prolly due to the ignition timing, too advanced in the midrange causing the pinging.
                  292rwhp E30 :D

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                  • diegom6
                    R3V Elite
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 4447

                    #24
                    Originally posted by E30-323ti
                    Keep trying Diego, get all the niggly stuff sorted out and it will come right.
                    Well just over 1/2 what I have ATW's, mind you I do have twice as many cams/valves & turbos as you.
                    Keep us posted on your progress.


                    Pinging is prolly due to the ignition timing, too advanced in the midrange causing the pinging.
                    yup, maybe with the smt6 can fix it, but I don't have lap top yet. don't worry will keep you posted
                    Euro M3'87 NogaroSilver/Euro E34 M5 '93/Porsche 993 TT 97' Euro/Porsche 993 Carrera 95' Euro/Skyline R33 GT-R

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                    • E30-323ti
                      Grease Monkey
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 328

                      #25
                      the SMT-6 is fuel only though isn't it??

                      You need one of those MSD boost dependant ignition retard thingies.


                      You could even use the MAP sensor instead of a AFM or MAF with the SMT-6

                      But by the time you fork out for all these "piggy back" controllers you would have been better off with a standalone ECU!!
                      292rwhp E30 :D

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                      • Bryson
                        E30 Fanatic
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 1490

                        #26
                        Originally posted by nando
                        Originally posted by diegom6
                        so I got 170 Crappy RWHP ?? that suck!
                        don't worry about it, that's more than what most people here have at the crank..
                        most people :twisted:

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                        • gstuning
                          E30 Modder
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 833

                          #27
                          Originally posted by E30-323ti
                          the SMT-6 is fuel only though isn't it??

                          You need one of those MSD boost dependant ignition retard thingies.


                          You could even use the MAP sensor instead of a AFM or MAF with the SMT-6

                          But by the time you fork out for all these "piggy back" controllers you would have been better off with a standalone ECU!!
                          It´s best to use the MAP as a load sensor on a turbo M20 and thus tune fuel by the amount of boost and not opening of the AFM housing

                          Also it´s definitly ignition also
                          It can also run 6 16ohm injectors of any size of course
                          it can handle NOZ and it could act as a boost controller, the smt is a very competent package

                          I´ll be wiring one to a M20B25 tomorrow and plan on using as many inputs as possible
                          it´s a turbo M20 yes and has a MAF and doesn´t advance ignition at WOT
                          Plan is :
                          Put motor in car after wiring,
                          Turn the boost to 0 psi
                          and start tuning from there, by retarding ignition when needed to stay well safe
                          Then move up 2psi at a time and keep the tuning correct at all times
                          then just turn the boost up after each succesful 2psi raise until at the end of the boost gauge of 15psi,, that should result in some huge smiles and loads of power and torque

                          Engine is ´87 325i Euro motronic 1.0 and compression is 9.7 or 9.4
                          Results will be posted here in the members rides,,
                          Gunni
                          @ Prodrive / Aston Martin Racing

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                          • diegom6
                            R3V Elite
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 4447

                            #28
                            That will be awesome Gunni, keep me posted on that proggres.

                            So, you are saying that we can keep the swapped MAF and use also a vaccum/pressure MAP sensor additional to recalibrate the fuel flow for the injectors?

                            If so, I don't have hte minus idea how to do that, lol, I have to learn first the basic part of the SMT6 tough.

                            Like I said, my pinging only is hear by shifting but full RPMs it doesn't. The MSD Retard Box will do the job, but I don't like to retard from low rpms or have to changing the grades every time that hit high RPMs where the pinging start.

                            Insated, the SMT6 can advance the ignition if you want in low RPMs for better response and reatrd in high rpms, isn't it Gunni?
                            Euro M3'87 NogaroSilver/Euro E34 M5 '93/Porsche 993 TT 97' Euro/Porsche 993 Carrera 95' Euro/Skyline R33 GT-R

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                            • gstuning
                              E30 Modder
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 833

                              #29
                              Originally posted by diegom6
                              That will be awesome Gunni, keep me posted on that proggres.

                              So, you are saying that we can keep the swapped MAF and use also a vaccum/pressure MAP sensor additional to recalibrate the fuel flow for the injectors?

                              If so, I don't have hte minus idea how to do that, lol, I have to learn first the basic part of the SMT6 tough.

                              Like I said, my pinging only is hear by shifting but full RPMs it doesn't. The MSD Retard Box will do the job, but I don't like to retard from low rpms or have to changing the grades every time that hit high RPMs where the pinging start.

                              Insated, the SMT6 can advance the ignition if you want in low RPMs for better response and reatrd in high rpms, isn't it Gunni?
                              you can just have the SMT retard ignition based on boost, it´s the one column map besides the ignition map and yoiu need to hookup your MAP sensor to the SMT unit
                              Gunni
                              @ Prodrive / Aston Martin Racing

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                              • diegom6
                                R3V Elite
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 4447

                                #30
                                I have a better shot of the car on the dyno...rolling but I have to re size it to upload here (currently size is like 20MB) I have these ones instaed that shows one oull, the first one is Torque numbers

                                second is HP numbers

                                and third is bonus vid...lol

                                max PSI was 9 , but I just don't get it, the car feels alot more power than 217 HP that was my best run..... :?

                                I will take a pic of the dyno chart tomorrow and will post here..




                                Vids...



                                Hp Vid



                                and Bonus Vid

                                Euro M3'87 NogaroSilver/Euro E34 M5 '93/Porsche 993 TT 97' Euro/Porsche 993 Carrera 95' Euro/Skyline R33 GT-R

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