I just pissed someone off, need to vent...

[atomic]

Anyone know where to get this tool or what it looks like? I traded out both front and rear windshields and had a hell of a time putting that lock strip back in. I never did get the rear corner pieces back in.

Unique swivel tip lets you install windshield gasket locking strips a lot easier.

Part Number Description Price
47000 lock strip tool $17.95


Fredk try to run a small thin piece of nylon/plastic (they have a tool for this) to break the gasket free of the windshield. I have had them break on me before removing if you do not break the seal on the inside and outside of the gasket all the way around the windshield. Sometimes the gasket gets stuck to the windshield and can break it while pushing it out unless you break it free.





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[xLibelle]

uhm, no.

guys, my original window was installed WITH this black rubbery sealant both before and after the gasket.
I couldnt even get the gasket to open up for me to let the old windshiled out, i had to cut it out. Also had to scrape a bunch of leftover sealant out of the frame.
So i want it back in the way it came out but i can see how it could be ok to reinstall w/o the sealant.
I like how one person makes a single sided perspective with explination and everyone jumps the bandwagon because it sounds good and they dont know better. Thanks for the support in humoring a "proper" window install and making me look like an ass. For the record, the guy was a complete asshole to me as soon as he walked up.

[FredK]

thanks atomic (and even Ben Careful)!

The window does seem to be adhered in some spots to the gasket, so I will definitely break the seal before pushing the window out. My car was subjected to a crap respray in which the windshield gasket wasn't properly masked, so I had to get a nylon prybar in there to break the clearcoat anyway.

EDIT: Dude, the window is put in dry from the factory.

[Farbin Kaiber]

EDIT: Dude, the window is put in dry from the factory.

X2... Be pissed at the guy that installed the old one that came out. If you paid the dealer they woulda got it right. Hopefully. Even they pay some outside sales co. to do the glass in most places.

[atomic]

uhm, no.

guys, my original window was installed WITH this black rubbery sealant both before and after the gasket.
I couldnt even get the gasket to open up for me to let the old windshiled out, i had to cut it out. Also had to scrape a bunch of leftover sealant out of the frame.
So i want it back in the way it came out but i can see how it could be ok to reinstall w/o the sealant.
I like how one person makes a single sided perspective with explination and everyone jumps the bandwagon because it sounds good and they dont know better. Thanks for the support in humoring a "proper" window install and making me look like an ass. For the record, the guy was a complete asshole to me as soon as he walked up.

Well someone in the past installed your windshield wrong then. Because the only e30 that has a glued in windshield is the M3 and all others are held in by the lockstrip inside the gasket. They were this way when it rolled of the assembly line period.

Sorry if you feel like an ass because of our views on this, but it is what it is and was not meant to be installed with windshield urethane period, unless a e30 M3.

[VacMan]

uhm, no.

guys, my original window was installed WITH this black rubbery sealant both before and after the gasket.
I couldnt even get the gasket to open up for me to let the old windshiled out, i had to cut it out. Also had to scrape a bunch of leftover sealant out of the frame.
So i want it back in the way it came out but i can see how it could be ok to reinstall w/o the sealant.
I like how one person makes a single sided perspective with explination and everyone jumps the bandwagon because it sounds good and they dont know better. Thanks for the support in humoring a "proper" window install and making me look like an ass. For the record, the guy was a complete asshole to me as soon as he walked up.

Just because someone installed the last windshield in your car incorrectly doesn't mean everyone else is wrong. I have removed 2 OEM windshields from E30's and neither had anything holding it in place but the lockstrip. That's why it's called a lockstrip.

Sorry for your crappy day and experience with the installer, but at the end of the day, he was right.

[Dave]

xLibelle,

Calm down - take a deep breath. Sounds like the last guy to do the job on your car did it wrong and you got stuck with the result. No one is doubting that the one you removed had adhesive on it.

In your case, I'd try to get a new gasket as well as that old one might be compromised if it has gunked up adhesive on it, or if it tore when the old window was coming out.

Good luck with getting it fixed.

[atomic]

Oh and for the record the normal e30 back windows are held in the same way as the front windshields are, with a lock strip and nothing else.

But not sure if the e30 M3 is like this, but I believe they are glued in like they are on the front of the M3 as well. Someone clear this up if I am wrong.

[Jordan]

E30 M3 windshields, front and rear, are bonded to the body. They are a structural member of the vehicle.

Non-m e30's front and rear glass are all held in with a gasket and lock strip. No adhesive was used on any of them ever from the factory. Its presence on your car only shows someone previously installed it wrong.

[ak96ss]

From the factory manual:

As Jordan stated, the M3 is glued in place, but it has a special adhesive they use - looks like a more complex process than squirting goo on and plopping the glass in.



And FWIW, the installation instructions for the regular glass make no mention of sealant of any sort.

[nando]

uhm, no.

guys, my original window was installed WITH this black rubbery sealant both before and after the gasket.
I couldnt even get the gasket to open up for me to let the old windshiled out, i had to cut it out. Also had to scrape a bunch of leftover sealant out of the frame.
So i want it back in the way it came out but i can see how it could be ok to reinstall w/o the sealant.
I like how one person makes a single sided perspective with explination and everyone jumps the bandwagon because it sounds good and they dont know better. Thanks for the support in humoring a "proper" window install and making me look like an ass. For the record, the guy was a complete asshole to me as soon as he walked up.

no, E30 windows don't have glue. yours must have been replaced at one time. don't be a retard.

[FredK]

ah thanks for that post ak96ss, it'll definitely help me remove my window when I get home!

[ANDRÜ]

I would have just let him do his job. He IS the installer, not you...

[Massive Lee]

There's sealant applied between the rubber gasket and the body. But that's not glue. That ensures that no water reaches the window frame.

[DEV0 E30]

Just because someone installed the last windshield in your car incorrectly doesn't mean everyone else is wrong. I have removed 2 OEM windshields from E30's and neither had anything holding it in place but the lockstrip. That's why it's called a lockstrip.

Sorry for your crappy day and experience with the installer, but at the end of the day, he was right.

Word. My installer didn't use any glue and I know non-Ms don't use it. Hate to rub it in, but it's one of those useful pieces of information.

He had some trick stuff to preserve the gasket from cracking and to make it easier to bend, also to get the glass to set correctly and promote a better seal. Looked like KY lubricant for cars, that, a screwdriver, and the lock strip tool are the only things needed.

OT: He had a shit load of gold teeth.