Wow. Way overpriced. Im sorry for your wallet.
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Sarcasm... Labor costs money, if the installer did these every day he could do it quick and cheap, but while on a national basis this is a common swap on an individual mechanic basis it is super rare, so not only does said mechanic need to do the work, he/she must also do the research to find what parts to use, and will likely use more new parts than a scrounge like me who is always looking for parts, and when I get enough I build something I do, the price isn't cheap, but including other work done it is in the right ballpark, if the other option is a new 135i at $40,000 then it isn't so bad, e36/e46 just don't have the fits like a glove feel of the e30, but if you can deal with an ugly body the Z3 is sweet from the inside
This place is like catholic school, 2/3 of the students smoke weed on a daily basis, but the faculty seems to convince the outside world that drugs are just in the other schools, the resident pot dealer thinks he's cool because he has the originality to call anyone he doesn't like a homosexual, and most of the little children follow him like sheep, then there's the few with brains, you hardly ever hear from them, perhaps don't even know they exist, but they get all the sh!t done.Comment
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Gotta agree with the majority here--I think I'd take it back and make them detail the engine bay and align the M Tech panels at least. For the money they (over)charged you, it doesn't say much for TSA's pride in their work.
However, get some nice rims and tires mounted, install some sport seats, and it'll really improve the overall look of your car.
I am jealous though, as I'm still saving and scrounging for parts for my S52 swap and am looking forward to the day I get to take that first drive...Comment
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then youre a fucking idiot. Less than 3k to do all that work? Im not defending tsa because i dont know shit about them except that terrys a nice personable guy. But a shop cannot detail shit out like you can when youre sitting in your garage with tons of time. If you want a pristine clean swap do it yourself. If youre cutting a check expect to clean up some details yourself. I would have went obd1 though. Looks good and with a little elbow grease youll have a really nice carComment
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My brain hurts from attempting to read all of that. Can you rephrase it with a little punctuation?Sarcasm... Labor costs money, if the installer did these every day he could do it quick and cheap, but while on a national basis this is a common swap on an individual mechanic basis it is super rare, so not only does said mechanic need to do the work, he/she must also do the research to find what parts to use, and will likely use more new parts than a scrounge like me who is always looking for parts, and when I get enough I build something I do, the price isn't cheap, but including other work done it is in the right ballpark, if the other option is a new 135i at $40,000 then it isn't so bad, e36/e46 just don't have the fits like a glove feel of the e30, but if you can deal with an ugly body the Z3 is sweet from the insideJoe Funk -- Portland Oregon
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03 X5. 3 liter obviously.Comment
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I said I would do the swap and accompanying labor on his car that TSA performed for $3k or less. The end result would look 10x better and work at least as well.
Terry clearly screwed him hard without any lube on the bill, but that is what they do best. How exactly the OP feels he's been done right is testimate to TSA's salesman abilities.Comment
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go try to operate a full blown shop with real employees and overhead and insurance and then come back and tell me how youll do all that for 3k. just shut your hole now as youre making yourself sound even dumber than you already have. ask someone who actually runs a shop. now go back to your 1 stall unheated garage and dream about a new 3 drawer craftsman toolboxComment
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If the shop labor rate is $100/hr, there is no way that they would charge for 30 hours of labor to swap the engine, install the suspension, and install a body kit. I bet a brunt of the cost came from all of the parts that went into the swap, that were billed at retail prices... i.e. control arms for $150 each, etc.
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Why are we talking about this 6 months later?sigpicComment
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No one twisted the OP's arm. He picked his installer, and he paid the bill. I'm just saying.. next time someone needs this sort of thing done in Texas and wants to pay a reasonable price... there are many many many alternatives to TSA for that pricing, and I'm not looking for work. I've got more than I know what to do with.Comment
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"We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."Comment
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have any of you fuckers ever ran a business? or have any clue to the overhead, workers comp, health insurance, utilities, taxes etc etc ..... and its not 14k its `10k and less than that . he had all new suspension installed. 4k for the motor. what about driveshaft tranny, exhaust? ask joe funk what its like. and nobody held a gun to this dudes head anyway. it looks to me like sayther made maybe 5k in labor. ive done a few swaps myself and know whats involved. the 3k dollar dude may be the greatest mechanic ever, i have no clue... but he doesnt have the overhead sayther has either.Comment
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