Continue attenting HPDE events or by an E30 M3?

[E30Kaiser]

Well if they are that cheap it wouldn't really matter either way if you kept doing them or moved up, I was just thinking to get most licenses they require a couple HPDE's or schools of some type. Since you are past that phase if you do get the M3 you could just Auto-x in the mean time which isn't nearly as fast, but still helps you become a better driver and for 20 bucks, the price is hard to beat.

[markseven]

I'd rather have an E30 to drive on a track than a pretty M3 to park and look at...

Lance, I started attending HPDE's to learn how to drive my car well. After a two events I was bitten and started thinking about racing, which most will agree is the natural progression. I do not think I can afford to become a racer. I have looked at a few J Stock M3’s, and have thought about how and where I could store a tow vehicle and a trailer, but financially and logistically, it isn’t possible in the foreseeable future. I think I can have a great deal of fun simply attending HPDE's in my 325, but I don't know for how long (at least 3 more years, I imagine)... at that point I think I would have to go wheel-to-wheel. I don't think TT would give me the same satisfaction cause I think racing against the clock is boring (SOLO & TT guys, forgive me). So, I am wondering if I should spend the HPDE money on monthly payments for an M3.

hmmm ive heard the e30 chassis has won more races than any...

but ive also heard its a very slow car. Sure it drives as well as it sounds but just throwing my useless facts out there.

HPDE's give you the opportunity to enhance your car control skills, thus making you a better driver.

An E30 M3 will surpirse and amaze you, that is if a.) you can afford to keep it running properly, and b.) you can afford to buy a DD.

My vote goes for the former, continue to better yourself and buy the driver's car later on.

Well if they are that cheap it wouldn't really matter either way if you kept doing them or moved up, I was just thinking to get most licenses they require a couple HPDE's or schools of some type. Since you are past that phase if you do get the M3 you could just Auto-x in the mean time which isn't nearly as fast, but still helps you become a better driver and for 20 bucks, the price is hard to beat.

I wouldn't track the M3. I am wondering if I should reallocate my resources to something that I would enjoy just as much, (possibly?) :-D

[z31maniac]

Build your current E30 into a fire breathing M3 killing monster?

Buy a sport bike? Nothing like getting your knee on the ground.

[devonjordan]

Mark, get the M3. Look @ it as an investment, so when Shayna goes to college you will actually be able to afford it, haha.

But in all seriousness an e30M3 would be the shit!!

[nando]

I'd rather have an E30 to drive on a track than a pretty M3 to park and look at...

I'd rather have both. ;)

[rwh11385]

Lance, I started attending HPDE's to learn how to drive my car well. After a two events I was bitten and started thinking about racing, which most will agree is the natural progression. I do not think I can afford to become a racer. I have looked at a few J Stock M3’s, and have thought about how and where I could store a tow vehicle and a trailer, but financially and logistically, it isn’t possible in the foreseeable future. I think I can have a great deal of fun simply attending HPDE's in my 325, but I don't know for how long (at least 3 more years, I imagine)... at that point I think I would have to go wheel-to-wheel. I don't think TT would give me the same satisfaction cause I think racing against the clock is boring (SOLO & TT guys, forgive me). So, I am wondering if I should spend the HPDE money on monthly payments for an M3.

You're afraid continuing HPDEs will give you the itch for racing? Possibly, but then again who knows if you won't be happy with time trialing because you are out there with fellow cars even if not true W2W. And why not budget a Spec series?

I think getting an M3 and assuming you won't get the itch to track, or at least Auto-X, is a little hard to believe if you have done 9 track events. Get a boring Toyota if you want to avoid wanting to do events.

If you are not doing track events, don't figure out a way to tie your finances up in a car... put it in a 529 or something.

I don't see the fun in polishing a car and hang out with either asocial people in a parking lot who may or may not end up doing stupid reckless shit you ought to be having a track event instead to experience fast, or with some old farts at a corral.

[rwh11385]

Just don't get into this logic: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=111870

And dump that money into your house, a 529, your 401k, whatever.

**In 17 years, 100% of an average total college costs will be $294,496. You will need to make monthly contributions of $623 to meet this cost until your kid starts school, if you only have one.**

[Charlie]

Stop tracking to buy an expensive car that's at home on the track that I can't track.

That logic hurts my brain.

-Charlie

[nando]

I don't see the fun in polishing a car and hang out with either asocial people in a parking lot who may or may not end up doing stupid reckless shit you ought to be having a track event instead to experience fast, or with some old farts at a corral.

I just like having a clean car, what does having something nice have to do with hanging out with douchebags in a parking lot?

do you ever wash your impala? how much does that thing cost you? every time my wife complains about cleaning her car I ask her that question. She spends $500 a month on it (not including gas), why not take care of it?

[Farbin Kaiber]

Keep that.

[rwh11385]

I just like having a clean car, what does having something nice have to do with hanging out with douchebags in a parking lot?

do you ever wash your impala? how much does that thing cost you? every time my wife complains about cleaning her car I ask her that question. She spends $500 a month on it (not including gas), why not take care of it?

I was talking about what you can do with it, besides look at it in your driveway or drive it on the weekends on backroads, like buying out griot's garage and wishing you could do something fun to do with it to make it less than sparkling clean. I don't have anything against washing a car - mine gets one every week, but I don't find washing it as much fun as driving on a track.

Parking lot reference: to "meets" which in locale speak usually means setting up street races, and with the majority of BMW people it seems to mean let's get together then go on a "mountain drive" until someone offs into a wooded area.

Then there are corrals which are like car shows minus the whores in barely any clothes and neons, but with old dudes like blunt.

Neither sound as much fun as the no BS feeling and camaraderie of a track event.

[nando]

Neither sound as much fun as the no BS feeling and camaraderie of a track event.

of course not - I have to roll my eyes at my freinds with E36 M3's who do chuckanut/mountain runs. "yeah man, I was pushing my car pretty hard, I really showed that guy in the Subaru - do you think new suspension bushings will help understeer? And I was thinking about getting a BBK to fix my brake fade". All I can think is if they'd actually been to a track, they would be pretty disinterested in playing speed-racer on the street.

[markseven]

And why not budget a Spec series?

Same reason I can't get a J Stock car. I was considering throwing bottlecaps with under-inflated tires on the J Stock car (if I got one) and drive it to and from the track instead of towing, but I don't know if that's a good idea.

I think getting an M3 and assuming you won't get the itch to track, or at least Auto-X, is a little hard to believe if you have done 9 track events. Get a boring Toyota if you want to avoid wanting to do events.

This is why I haven't moved on this as yet. When I am at the track, I feel there is nothing else in the world I would rather do. But every where else I wish I had an M3 to drive whenever I feel like it.

If you are not doing track events, don't figure out a way to tie your finances up in a car... put it in a 529 or something.

I would be tying up the money in something tangible and that appreciates. The best of both worlds.

I don't see the fun in polishing a car and hang out with either asocial people in a parking lot who may or may not end up doing stupid reckless shit you ought to be having a track event instead to experience fast, or with some old farts at a corral.

I get a lot of pleasure from detailing my cars. Hanging out in parking lots is fun I you do it once every three months or so.

Just don't get into this logic: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=111870

And dump that money into your house, a 529, your 401k, whatever.

Following your logic, an M3 is a financial investment and tracking is not, correct? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate your input and advice regarding investments. :D

Stop tracking to buy an expensive car that's at home on the track that I can't track.

Charlie, I would get a loan to pay for the M3. If I collect another car or get collected, I am up the proverbial creek. Besides, there are quite a few E30 M3's that have been turned into race cars or wrapped around telephone poles. I want to save one of the survivors ;)

do you ever wash your impala? how much does that thing cost you? every time my wife complains about cleaning her car I ask her that question. She spends $500 a month on it (not including gas), why not take care of it?

Werd. My E30 gets the same level of care that my 540 enjoyed. I respect my property. I will drive the M3 if I get one, on the weekends or special occasions. Like I said, about 5K a year... certainly not a garage queen.

Keep that.

Dude, you made my day :D That pic was on the 57? That was before I repainted the shadowline.

[BigD]

Both man. Get your M3, find a cheap 325i (or rent an automatic mustang) and do a couple of track days a year - maybe just one. What's wrong with that? Surely ONE HPDE isn't going to break the bank. Pick one super cool one.

I totally understand having the hobby car with underused potential. I'm keeping my S52 E30 as a track rat and next year I'm picking a new Z06 which will maybe see a few HPDEs where I'll take it up to maybe 60% of what it can do. But it'll mainly be for weekend cruising and licking it as I walk past it in the garage. When you approach a 2nd gear turn at the top of 4th, looking at a concrete wall, what you do to the brake pedal will be very different in a track rat vs your beloved hobby car - regardless of what the hobby car is capable of. And anyone who doesn't get why you'd even buy it then will never get it. You clearly do.

[rwh11385]

If you are not doing track events, don't figure out a way to tie your finances up in a car... put it in a 529 or something.

I would be tying up the money in something tangible and that appreciates. The best of both worlds.

I don't think anyone will accidently back into a 529, and a flash rain won't take you into a tree with a mutual fund either.