STARTEC Taillights... How do they work?

[euro3]

Optical illusion? No,

You can see the orange "cup" in the last picture

[reelizmpro]

There are layers and capsules. There are no colored bulbs used with these tails, just standard bulbs.

[mtechnik]

The Startec/MHW debate is on again :D

My don't have any coloured bulbs in my units.

[mtechnik]

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well looky there :D, that's meeeeeee .

[B2702]

I dont like the MHW early tails, they look like the ebay tails

[regnu]

I dont like the MHW early tails, they look like the ebay tails

You are allowed to have your opinion even if it is wrong. :P


I have a set of late model MHWs, no colored bulbs, they seem to have lenses inside of lenses. I did notice that it looks like the rear fog light will be white as there is no red lens in that part of the taillight. I'll know for sure once it is wired up.

[JamesE30]

The Startec/MHW debate is on again :D

NO IT'S NOT!!! :curse:

PLEASE KEEP OPINIONS OUT OF THIS THREAD!

This is about the physical composition of the lights!

There are layers and capsules. There are no colored bulbs used with these tails, just standard bulbs.

Huh? Layers and capsules? Could you please explain with a little more detail?

Optical illusion? No,

You can see the orange "cup" in the last picture

Please tell me about this "cup". Pic's would be great!

I have a set of late model MHWs, no colored bulbs, they seem to have lenses inside of lenses. I did notice that it looks like the rear fog light will be white as there is no red lens in that part of the taillight. I'll know for sure once it is wired up.

That's also interesting.. Post the results when you're done. I can't imagine they will be white...

[B2702]

NO IT'S NOT!!! :curse:

PLEASE KEEP OPINIONS OUT OF THIS THREAD!

This is about the physical composition of the lights!



Huh? Layers and capsules? Could you please explain with a little more detail?



Please tell me about this "cup". Pic's would be great!



That's also interesting.. Post the results when you're done. I can't imagine they will be white...

Why do you need to know anyway lol? Just get some and throw them on:)

[TDE30]

NO IT'S NOT!!! :curse:

PLEASE KEEP OPINIONS OUT OF THIS THREAD!

You post this in General Discussion, what the fuck do you expect? Here's my opinion, they look tacky and don't make much sense other than to reduce visibility in an area where you should want it most.

If you really want answers/facts/etc., try posting it in the appropriate forum.

[gearheadE30]

I actually have a set. My thread is here: http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=119379 and they are for sale right now. You can see the damage. I'm asking $70, but I'll consider offers. I don't really know what they are worth in the shape they are in.

Anyway, enough stealing your thread. Startecs have completely clear outer lenses, and do not use colored bulbs. The parking light section has a red lense behind the white lense. The reverse light is just the clear lense. All of the other lights have little colored plastic cones around the bulb. If you have opened a cluster, it is the same as the orange covers over the cluster backlight. TDE30, this in no way reduces light output. See the pics, they are just as bright as the stockers. MHW lights, on the other hand, limit output. I don't know if MHW ever made non-smoked lights.

[SpecM]

-I don't want to crap on your thread... but I'm not a big fan of Sartec lights. Never was. Just kinda "meh" imo. No offence, tho.

-I'll leave you alone now, hope you find the info you want

[TDE30]

TDE30, this in no way reduces light output. See the pics, they are just as bright as the stockers. MHW lights, on the other hand, limit output. I don't know if MHW ever made non-smoked lights.

It throws off the same light as a normal, non-smoked taillight? Even with the same bulbs, surely some of the light is hindered by the smoked lens (or whatever it is that it smoked.)

[LINUS]

I have a set of early MHW's, according to the flyer/instructions included - no colored bulb needed.

Sorry if it's been mentioned - I scanned through most of the discussion.

[JamesE30]

You post this in General Discussion, what the fuck do you expect? Here's my opinion, they look tacky and don't make much sense other than to reduce visibility in an area where you should want it most.

If you really want answers/facts/etc., try posting it in the appropriate forum.

Did you seriously just post your opinion to spite me? Oh man...

It throws off the same light as a normal, non-smoked taillight? Even with the same bulbs, surely some of the light is hindered by the smoked lens (or whatever it is that it smoked.)

The lenses are no more tinted than the original lens. In fact I'd go as far to say the STARTEC's are actually more transparent the OE BMW lights. You can see straight through the clear plastic. On Original BMW lights you cant see anything beyond the plastic. I see no reason for these to be less bright than OE lights. If anything they should be brighter. The MHW ones use a darker plastic so perhaps they do emit less light...

I actually have a set. My thread is here: http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=119379 and they are for sale right now. You can see the damage. I'm asking $70, but I'll consider offers. I don't really know what they are worth in the shape they are in.

Let me know If you want to split the set. I'd happily take the broken one off your hands, and I'm sure you could find someone who wanted a spare.
I may be interested in both if you're willing to ship to AUS (PM me if you want)

Anyway, enough stealing your thread. Startecs have completely clear outer lenses, and do not use colored bulbs. The parking light section has a red lense behind the white lense. The reverse light is just the clear lense. All of the other lights have little colored plastic cones around the bulb. If you have opened a cluster, it is the same as the orange covers over the cluster backlight. TDE30, this in no way reduces light output. See the pics, they are just as bright as the stockers. MHW lights, on the other hand, limit output. I don't know if MHW ever made non-smoked lights.

Thankyou! That's exactly what I wanted to know! You've been very helpful. I never would have thought of making little coloured cups..
This is good though, because if I do replicate these lights, It means I only have to mold one piece of plastic for the lens, not multiple and heat weld them like the OE lights. The little cups should be easy to fabricate.

[JamesE30]

Why do you need to know anyway lol? Just get some and throw them on:)

I ask because I am considering manufacturing a replica, or similarly designed light :D