shakey wheel problem =/

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  • Motorsports
    R3VLimited
    • Feb 2007
    • 2882

    #16
    You should've replaced the control arms in pairs, and replaced the control arm bushing. Good thing that you replaced the tierod, but you basically wasted your time replacing the right control arm only. One more thing that you should replace that many people over look sometimes are the sway bar links. They're really cheap and easy to change.
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    • T Verdier
      R3VLimited
      • Aug 2007
      • 2636

      #17
      m3 solid offset bushings are like $40 a pair but i think you need a shop to press them in. could your spacers be funky. my fiennces e28 had a chronic shuder while braking we replaced everthing but the wheel bering never went away.

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      • joehasane30
        Grease Monkey
        • Sep 2008
        • 303

        #18
        Originally posted by morningsmiler
        Joe has an e30, but Joe has no written language skills.

        <sigh>I must be just be getting old.
        lol, like i care how i TIPE ONLYNE

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        • joehasane30
          Grease Monkey
          • Sep 2008
          • 303

          #19
          Originally posted by Snoopy
          first thing I ever did on my e30 was replace both control arms and bushings at same time. its a bitch to push the bushings onto the end, but possible with warm soap water and lots of pushing against the car with your whole body cursing the cold weather.
          :rofl:

          hahaha

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          • joehasane30
            Grease Monkey
            • Sep 2008
            • 303

            #20
            Originally posted by Motorsports
            You should've replaced the control arms in pairs, and replaced the control arm bushing. Good thing that you replaced the tierod, but you basically wasted your time replacing the right control arm only. One more thing that you should replace that many people over look sometimes are the sway bar links. They're really cheap and easy to change.
            thanks for the info, will eventually replace those.

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            • joehasane30
              Grease Monkey
              • Sep 2008
              • 303

              #21
              Originally posted by T Verdier
              m3 solid offset bushings are like $40 a pair but i think you need a shop to press them in. could your spacers be funky. my fiennces e28 had a chronic shuder while braking we replaced everthing but the wheel bering never went away.
              i dont think its my wheel spacers, i think its my wheel bearings and bushings thats doin it conciderin the stuff probably has 212xxx miles on it and no previous owner ever replaced. so i think im looking at many things that will need replacement soon.

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              • jimsill
                E30 Addict
                • Nov 2005
                • 548

                #22
                id "borrow" a set of proven wheels from a friend and run them for a day. It would be a shame to throw gobs of cash at the car only to find out you had a bent wheel, flat spots on the tires, or funky hubcentric spacer issue.
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                both these cars are gone :(

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                • joehasane30
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 303

                  #23
                  Originally posted by jimsill
                  id "borrow" a set of proven wheels from a friend and run them for a day. It would be a shame to throw gobs of cash at the car only to find out you had a bent wheel, flat spots on the tires, or funky hubcentric spacer issue.

                  damn! good idea my friend, my neighbors got a 325is wit stocky basketweaves im gonna slap them on

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                  • T Verdier
                    R3VLimited
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 2636

                    #24
                    Originally posted by jimsill
                    id "borrow" a set of proven wheels from a friend and run them for a day. It would be a shame to throw gobs of cash at the car only to find out you had a bent wheel, flat spots on the tires, or funky hubcentric spacer issue.
                    damn i was gonna say that but my ps3 froze and i didnt feel like typing it over again lol.

                    my fiance's car has a shudder at freeway speeds but not under braking like ours do. i hope mine stops when i put my stuff on. if not maybe we both need wheel baring kits.

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                    • Rolla1990
                      Advanced Member
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 199

                      #25
                      Originally posted by joehasane30
                      damn! good idea my friend, my neighbors got a 325is wit stocky basketweaves im gonna slap them on
                      It's not a bearing/bushing/control arm/balljoint problem. You have a problem with your wheels or tires (balance, centering, or excessive road force in some spots on your tires).


                      Turbo M20, MSnS, 38lb, 3" no cat, RPI 12.2", ATS DTC, 240whp/240wtq, Lmnop. www.DonsGarage.net

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                      • T Verdier
                        R3VLimited
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 2636

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Rolla1990
                        It's not a bearing/bushing/control arm/balljoint problem. You have a problem with your wheels or tires (balance, centering, or excessive road force in some spots on your tires).
                        does the shudder feel any different than before the work? does it still clunk when you turn the wheel? did you try jimmys wheels yet? am i asking to many questions?

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                        • Rolla1990
                          Advanced Member
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 199

                          #27
                          A shudder is 99% always caused by a rotating assembly with a substantial amount of mass such as a wheel, tire, or during braking, a rotor. An easier test would be to swap the tires front to back and see if it feels any different.


                          Turbo M20, MSnS, 38lb, 3" no cat, RPI 12.2", ATS DTC, 240whp/240wtq, Lmnop. www.DonsGarage.net

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                          • joehasane30
                            Grease Monkey
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 303

                            #28
                            Originally posted by T Verdier
                            does the shudder feel any different than before the work? does it still clunk when you turn the wheel? did you try jimmys wheels yet? am i asking to many questions?
                            hahaha, i like the one about the ps3 freezing, but havent tried anything yet on my car cause jimmys car is still in the shop because his power steering bracketg broke. but as soon as he gets it back im gonna throw his wheels on my car and see if i still shake. and my wheel shakes on freeway just cruzing too not only under brakning i realize.

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                            • StereoInstaller1
                              GAS
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 22679

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Rolla1990
                              A shudder is 99% always caused by a rotating assembly with a substantial amount of mass such as a wheel, tire, or during braking, a rotor. An easier test would be to swap the tires front to back and see if it feels any different.
                              I am gonna call bullshit on this.

                              My car shuddered like a dog shitting a peach pit while braking.

                              My rotors were nasty ass drilled VERY worn pile of shit ebay junk.

                              We are talking grooves, warps, just fucking shit.

                              All I did was swap control arm bushings, as in AKG urethane non-offset.

                              My shudder went away 100%, as in GONE, with no other changes.

                              Think of the physics of braking forces acting on a control arm, and how much stress is placed on the CABs

                              The owner of AKG will gladly tell you that the E30 suffers from a poor front suspension design, and that the urethane bushing ALWAYS fixes the dreaded "brake shudder".

                              Try it, you will be shocked.

                              Luke

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                              • stegosaurus
                                Grease Monkey
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 367

                                #30
                                Originally posted by StereoInstaller1
                                I am gonna call bullshit on this.

                                All I did was swap control arm bushings, as in AKG urethane non-offset.

                                My shudder went away 100%, as in GONE, with no other changes.

                                Think of the physics of braking forces acting on a control arm, and how much stress is placed on the CABs

                                The owner of AKG will gladly tell you that the E30 suffers from a poor front suspension design, and that the urethane bushing ALWAYS fixes the dreaded "brake shudder".

                                Try it, you will be shocked.

                                Luke
                                I have a shudder and my car has urethane bushings. I'm actually getting a little worried about it, but I'm pretty sure that its something to do with the brakes. I've got e30 m3 control arms, weaves, and new bearings. I wouldn't rule out the bushings, because I haven't lubed them (supposed to lube every 2k) but my question is how can I know.

                                Sorry to thread jack
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