Performance software

[Jonathan M3]

15-20hp max only on an eta, all other e30 motors 3-5hp at best.

[THATDONFC]

OK guys you asked for it. I'll be installing a chip in my car and I will get you before and after numbers. All this means is I get one for free now cuz I'm the tester for you guys...! :D

[z31maniac]

Back to back runs on the same day in the conditions, no correction factors.

Only difference being the chip.

In the past I know alot of aftermarket companies have made HP claims like "Our header makes 23HP on a Civic Si", but what they don't tell you is its a built high comp motor with software, intake, exhaust and the header is the bottleneck, so a stockish engine isn't really going to see that.

[THATDONFC]

Well these numbers are based on a stock motor with only the chip. There are many "claims" out there that are just plain horse-shit...

I will, however, be raffling off a chip for an i and an eta on the 14th of december at my RMS e30 specific Dyno Day. check the thread here

http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=124275

The winner of the raffle will get a free pull with the chip in. this should give you guys an idea on what kind of number we will actually get out of these cars. The info I got from the boss is that these m20 motors came heavily de-tuned from the factory. Meaning that simply tuning the chip for the ecu will bring the hp up quite a bit.

Also the number +30 HP was a number at the crank not the wheels. I was not told this when he told me the numbers. But still a very significant gain.

[THATDONFC]

all other e30 motors 3-5hp at best.

How do you figure that???^^

[cferb]

How do you figure that???^^

Proven results...

[THATDONFC]

Who has the results? I'd like to see some numbers?

also who tuned the car?

[MarkD]

15-20hp max only on an eta, all other e30 motors 3-5hp at best.

Are you sure a chip is only good for 5 hp max on an M20? The chips I developed have been measured on a dyno with gains much better than that. The fastest autocrosser in an E30 (Alex Schipkov) has had great results with hy chip.

The odd thing is, RMS is not known for chips... I am.

It's probably time for a Thanksgiving sale....:-)

[shiftbmw]

You guys are being way too nice about this...

30hp gain on an M20 with just a chip?? That's not far-fetched, that's a fucking joke.

Get real man. You'd have to be very creative with your "math" to achieve something like this.

I call bullshit. Let's see a dyno chart.


Mark-

I'm sure you've posted one somewhere, but I'd be curious to see some of your dyno charts as well to see what kind of realistic gains people see from a well-tuned chip.

PS-still no chip for the s14 eh?

[Alkasquawlik]

Are yopu sure a chip is only good for 5 hp max on an M20? The chips I developed have been measured on a dyno with gains much better than that.

The odd thing is, RMS is not known for chips... I am.

It's probably time for a Thanksgiving sale....:-)

Mark if you do a Thanksgiving sale, I will buy one in a heartbeat. I've been saving for one for a while now, and just finally got some money for it. A sale would be tits right now :D

[MarkD]

Mark if you do a Thanksgiving sale, I will buy one in a heartbeat. I've been saving for one for a while now, and just finally got some money for it. A sale would be tits right now :D

I came over here to mention a sale, just didn't know if I could post about it.

I was thinking 10% off if I get 5 to 9 orders, 15% off if I get more than that, and and extra 3% if the order is received by Saturday.

I'll send the refunds out after I figure out the exact refund amount.

It's just past 2:00 am so I'm off to bed, have to take my wife to the train station at 6:00 am.

MarkD

[THATDONFC]

OK so how is it possible for MarkD to make more than 5hp on an m20 with only a chip? You guys have never heard of RMS. I have never heard of MarkD. I'm sure Mark is right on this one. And he has more of a rep than me on this I am assuming.

Oh and Shift, how do YOU know that this is not possible?

[Alkasquawlik]

I came over here to mention a sale, just didn't know if I could post about it.

I was thinking 10% off if I get 5 to 9 orders, 15% off if I get more than that, and and extra 3% if the order is received by Saturday.

I'll send the refunds out after I figure out the exact refund amount.

It's just past 2:00 am so I'm off to bed, have to take my wife to the train station at 6:00 am.

MarkD

Is that an official group buy or what?

OK so how is it possible for MarkD to make more than 5hp on an m20 with only a chip? You guys have never heard of RMS. I have never heard of MarkD. I'm sure Mark is right on this one. And he has more of a rep than me on this I am assuming.

Oh and Shift, how do YOU know that this is not possible?

You've never heard of Mark D chips and you say you've been around E30s :loco:
He is one of the most reputable chip producers for the E30

[THATDONFC]

Well I never said I've been around e30's. I just bought my first e30 4 months ago actually. I used to have an e36 m3 with an RMS chip until some jackass totaled it...

I'm installing a chip on saturday and I will dyno my car before and after. I'll have a couple Dynographs up by monday-ish.

[Alkasquawlik]

I think people are skeptical of your company's chip, not only because of the supposed claims of power, but also the reliability. Both Mark D, and the TMS chips have been proven to have consistent power gains and be reliable on the engines.
I think once a few people get the chips and give the rest of the forum some feedback, you'll see more sales, but for the time being. It will be hard to compete with MarkD and TMS chips, especially if they start doing sales and whatnot.

Just my