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    #61
    I also asked for a dyno chart.

    Upon searching s14.net with the name and acronym of your shop, I only found two quotes.

    "That mistake required a full engine rebuild which was done by Osh Minelian at what is now called Race Marque Systems (a BMW tuning shop). I knew Osh back when he first opened his shop, then called Eurotech, and sat in front of it in the driveway waiting for business."

    And then this gem:

    "STAY AWAY FROM RMS...they cent even get superchargers to work right on e36's"


    It seems that your s14 chip has not been mentioned once on s14.net. I feel like if it was that successful, someone would have commented on it or mentioned it...just saying...



    Another question I have is why would I bother doing the work to call your shop when I already have little faith? It's not my job to market your product to myself. I found a chip that I liked with PROVEN RESULTS via dyno graph. That's why I bought it. There was no hearsay, no bullshit, just the facts. You have yet to produce any facts and over the phone you boss wouldn't produce any either.

    Did you check with him before posting this? I feel like if he saw the way this thread was going he'd change his mind about letting you as you are going to end up hurting the guy's business.

    I'm not out for blood here, nor am I trying to be a dick. I'm just a bit tired of all the sketchy numbers for aftermarket car parts I see nowadays. All I'm asking for is a little support for your claim for the chips that YOU want to sell.
    Last edited by shiftbmw; 11-21-2008, 12:26 AM.
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      #62
      ^^^
      pwnd

      SC*AR

      Originally posted by JamesE30
      And with a car looking like yours I imagine the balance shall tip in the favor of insult, like a big fat fucking retarded fucking black girl on a see-saw, opposite... a dwarf.

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        #63
        Alright well I will get them for you. I haven't seen an e30 m3 in the shop for quite some time, except for the one we're building a low compression motor for. I'll see if we can get an s14 in here so I can get you numbers. Once again, I'm not trying to fuck you guys over. All I'm trying to do is help you out. I read somewhere that you needed an s14 chip so I figured I could help you out. If not great, if so great. I'm sorry for all that has happened in the past but as you can see in the quote above. The motor that was blown was rebuilt for free. Not like we broke it and said you better pay for that or we won't fix it... lol

        Anyways, enough of all this. I'll have some eta numbers on monday because I am going to do before and after dyno runs on my car, which is an eta, on saturday... unfortunately. Man I wish I could own an e30 m3. The sound of the motor alone at WOT is secks...

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          #64
          You give Bronzits a bad name.
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            #65
            Originally posted by z31maniac View Post
            You give Bronzits a bad name.


            What did I do?

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              #66
              Originally posted by THATDONFC View Post
              I'm sorry for all that has happened in the past but as you can see in the quote above. The motor that was blown was rebuilt for free. Not like we broke it and said you better pay for that or we won't fix it... lol

              To be fair to your shop, the first quote I posted made no indication that the previous motor failure was on your account, nor did it even mention that it was built by you guys originally I don't think. Hopefully I didn't mislead anybody into thinking that the motor failure was on the account of your shop.
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                #67
                You will have a chip to try this Saturday? But as of now there is no chip? In 1 day you are going to fully tune an engine to be more powerful and reliable?

                Or do you already have a chip in the works, with no dyno info to show? How'd you tune it then?

                I'm just a little confused...
                85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                e30 restoration and V8 swap
                24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by JGood View Post
                  You will have a chip to try this Saturday? But as of now there is no chip? In 1 day you are going to fully tune an engine to be more powerful and reliable?

                  Or do you already have a chip in the works, with no dyno info to show? How'd you tune it then?

                  I'm just a little confused...
                  it's easy

                  1) buy ebay chip for $20
                  2) slap shop label on it
                  3) ?????????
                  4) PROFIT!
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by JGood View Post
                    You will have a chip to try this Saturday? But as of now there is no chip? In 1 day you are going to fully tune an engine to be more powerful and reliable?

                    Or do you already have a chip in the works, with no dyno info to show? How'd you tune it then?

                    I'm just a little confused...
                    Tuned? More like tooned.

                    Rest assured, every chip we send out is based on atleast 3, usually more like 10, actual tunes performed in person on a car with the same setup on the same dyno. Of course I can't post any of my charts right now because we're migrating to a new website at the moment.

                    I can post links though...

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by nando View Post
                      it's easy

                      1) buy ebay chip for $20
                      2) slap shop label on it
                      3) ?????????
                      4) PROFIT!
                      HAHA. That is not at all what we do...

                      We have a lot of software files for the e30 but I can't find any of the dyno graphs. I don't know if we saved them to be honest. Plus I haven't seen an e30 in the shop for a long time...

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by THATDONFC View Post
                        HAHA. That is not at all what we do...

                        We have a lot of software files for the e30 but I can't find any of the dyno graphs. I don't know if we saved them to be honest. Plus I haven't seen an e30 in the shop for a long time...



                        Why wouldn't you save dyno graphs to prove what you product does?


                        Sounds like an unorganized way to run a business which leads to what seems to be shady business practices to most...


                        Good luck, you're going to need it IMHO...



                        ;)

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                          #72
                          5 pages of reading and still no graphs? what a waste of time.

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by Mucci View Post
                            5 pages of reading

                            User CP à Edit Options à Thread Display Options à Number of Posts to Show Per Page à Show 40 Posts Per Page


                            Change your settings n00b! ;)
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                              #74
                              Originally posted by DarkWing6 View Post
                              User CP à Edit Options à Thread Display Options à Number of Posts to Show Per Page à Show 40 Posts Per Page


                              Change your settings n00b! ;)
                              I will not conform! I'm not going to let The Man force me to more efficiently view these forums.

                              5pgs I say!

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                                #75
                                How do you plan to create software to outperform guys like Mark D. and Jim C. who have been doing this for a LONG time, constantly modifying and perfecting the software?

                                Or are you trying to offer a lower cost option at the expense of the gains seen in the more expensive chip?

                                Just curious, no bashing. Offering a cheaper product with less then perfect results is not a bad thing...
                                85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                                e30 restoration and V8 swap
                                24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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