The Official F1 2009 Thread

[E30Kaiser]

For Barrichello to win the title, he has to win the last 4 races while Jenson fairing no better than 3rd everytime. This would put Rubens at 106 points while Jenson would have 104. If Jenson got three 3rd place finishes and one 2nd, he would have 106 points just like Rubens but the title would go to Jensen because he has more wins.

Based on this, Jenson isn't quite a lock for the WD title but todays' result at Monza has definately improved his odds.

Jon

Actually if Jenson gets three 3rds and a 2nd place he will lose to Rubens as Rubens would have 6 wins(he has 2 now, plus 4 more) as well and way more 2nd places.

[Jon325i]

Actually if Jenson gets three 3rds and a 2nd place he will lose to Rubens as Rubens would have 6 wins(he has 2 now, plus 4 more) as well and way more 2nd places.

Oh yeah - you're right. I had forgotten about Valencia. And Rubens' number of podiums definately outweighs Jensons'. Whoever from Brawn wins the Drivers' Title, you can't deny 2009 will go down as an epic season for this new team. They've pretty much got the Constructors' title in their pocket already.


Jon

[naplesE30]

Good race, hectic first lap, all the cars were so skitish around the track with no downforce and cold tires. Vettel could have def been investigated for blocking I thought. It would be a shame if Monza was done away with for a Rome street circut. Although Hamilton did not win the race he showed why he is a former champion and prob will be again someday,,,, pushing hard at the limit until the end, and not afraid to go over the limit. Many drivers would have just accepted 3rd, he is fearless and never backs down. Let it be known that I am NOT a Hamilton fan but I admire his tenacity.

The Brawn team could have some very interesting decisions to make in the next few races if RB continues to drive the way he is. They pulled away from Redbull in this race so I guess they can let them race.

[E30Kaiser]

Oh yeah - you're right. I had forgotten about Valencia. And Rubens' number of podiums definately outweighs Jensons'. Whoever from Brawn wins the Drivers' Title, you can't deny 2009 will go down as an epic season for this new team. They've pretty much got the Constructors' title in their pocket already.


Jon

Yeah, I am a Vettel fan, but he has a long career ahead of him while Rubens doesn't so if Vettel can't win I would like Rubens to, he has been number 2 for too long.

[naplesE30]

Just watched the braking video, amazing braking but also great to see/hear how quick and violent the down shifts are. Those tranny's are stout.

[Hick]

i wanted to see Hamilton pass Button at the end. Great race for Force India... would of liked to of seen Tonio finish in the points. I expect Force India to be at the back of the pack the last 4 races

[bwanac]

so was there a mechanical failure with lewis (slight as it may have been), or was it just a little too anxious...

i still need to watch the race.

[Jparkr]

so was there a mechanical failure with lewis (slight as it may have been), or was it just a little too anxious...

i still need to watch the race.

He over pushed.

I can't believe anyone would admire him for what he did. He was not really fast enough to pass button on the final lap. He could have caught up, sure. But a pass would have been stupid and jeopardized both himself and button (not like he hasn't passed without grace before though)
He should have taken the points that his team needs. But he is far to egotistic for that. Jesus, if he raced for me I would give him an ear full, not a high five.

[bwanac]

He over pushed.

I can't believe anyone would admire him for what he did. He was not really fast enough to pass button on the final lap. He could have caught up, sure. But a pass would have been stupid and jeopardized both himself and button (not like he hasn't passed without grace before though)
He should have taken the points that his team needs. But he is far to egotistic for that. Jesus, if he raced for me I would give him an ear full, not a high five.

youre right, but what did does he really have to lose this season?

[Jparkr]

He as a driver, nothing really. But points are important to the team, he may have just blown Mercedes chance to beat Ferrari in second place constructors championship.

[bwanac]

He as a driver, nothing really. But points are important to the team, he may have just blown Mercedes chance to beat Ferrari in second place constructors championship.

Didn't think they were in the running, I haven't checked standings recently.

[E30Kaiser]

i wanted to see Hamilton pass Button at the end. Great race for Force India... would of liked to of seen Tonio finish in the points. I expect Force India to be at the back of the pack the last 4 races

Adrian finished the race for Force India not Tonio, though Liuzzi was in the points and looking good when his car's transmission went out.

He as a driver, nothing really. But points are important to the team, he may have just blown Mercedes chance to beat Ferrari in second place constructors championship.

Ferrari is in 3rd place, 15 point different between them and McLaren which I think will be easily overcome since they have Heikki as well who gets consistent points.

[Jparkr]

Ferrari is in 3rd place, 15 point different between them and McLaren which I think will be easily overcome since they have Heikki as well who gets consistent points.

Im sorry I ment to say third in the constructors. I dont know about Heikki, he is not always in the points and Kimi is finishing strong as of late.

I wasn't trying to say Hamilton blew MM chances at 3rd, but he certainly did not help.

[Hick]

Adrian finished the race for Force India not Tonio, though Liuzzi was in the points and looking good when his car's transmission went out.

Thats what i said, read it again.

Hamiton is a racer at heart, if he thinks he can pass someone thn he is going to push to pass them. Dosent matter what lap it is, or if he can win the championship. EVERY one of those guys out there is going to push hard till the finish line.... i dont know why you think he was being foolish.

FYI, he set the purple first sector on that lap, so he was on the move trying to get every little bit out of the car to try and get one more spot.

[YAN-3]

good race. I dont understand what happened with Kubi, but glad Kimi was back on the podium.