88' e30 M3 with 27k orig miles! what's it worth?

[elsabor67]

How am I a fool? Why the need to be so rude? I simply went with the most logical thing I have ever heard to do if you are completely clueless to a price. I don't buy and sell cars for a living so I'm not an expert on it. I apologize, but that is simply what I would have done. Again, no need to be rude about it. Enlighten me with better ideas and ways such as smonkbmw did rather than being a complete ass.

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Reign, Check this website out. Even though it's in Germany, it should give you an idea how expensive and hard to find one that is in "pristine" condition is. And some of these have over 135,000 miles on them. Bimmer magazine also listed the E30 M3 in their latest mag a one of the 10 cars for collectors to get their hands on.

OP, I would see what he (the owner) wants for it. Documentation is a must, but seeing what you own you should have no problems in getting a good or decent deal from the owner of the car 'cause he will know it's going to a good home. Good luck.

[chameleonleather]

Anyone who buys a car because everyone else wants it is buying a car for the wrong reason.

now your talking

[M635dude]

Thanks for all of the responses guys! I'm going to check it out more tomorrow and actually get to open it up and see what it's really like. I feel that if I bought this car and just slowly started getting everything in top condition that I wouldn't really lose any money on it, unless it needs an engine or something. I'm pretty sure it would need a full repaint though, someone put some stripes on it a long time ago and it really just doesn't look good at all. I'm pretty sure the owner knows what he has, but hopefully he can work something good on price with the economy right now. I'll let everyone know more when I see it and hopefully will have some pics.

Also as far as I know there might not be any documentation, but in my mind from what I've seen the interior and undercarriage prove the mileage to be accurate. It's also sitting outside right now :(

Yep, you also have to look at what you can buy for that kind of money. Anyone paying $25K and up for an E30 M3 must be demented. With the economy where it is, you can pick up a good 996 TT for less than $40K.

a 996tt will never have a uniqueness to it. I would take a perfect, mint condition, and fast e30 m3 any day over any 996 unless it had over 500 to the wheels. 964 turbo or 993 turbo is a different story all together though.

[Massive Lee]

Anyone paying $25K and up for an E30 M3 must be demented. With the economy where it is, you can pick up a good 996 TT for less than $40K.

You obviously haven't driven or owned an M3. In 10 years from now, that same M3 will be sell for $40k and the 996 for $20k. That says a lot about what car is the most fun...

Current price for a good Evo3 in Germany is arout $60k and it is not a pristine one...

Lee

[blunttech]

somethings wrong with this picture. either the owner has no clue what it is or theres something wrong with this car. 27k on an e30m3 thats had stripes slathered all over it and sitting outside with faded paint? stranger things have happened but id be very cautious

[atomic]

You need to run the vin with carfax before negotiating price, something just doesn't add up with the information you have given. I would be very sceptical at this time...

[reelizmpro]

You obviously haven't driven or owned an M3. In 10 years from now, that same M3 will be sell for $40k and the 996 for $20k. That says a lot about what car is the most fun...

Current price for a good Evo3 in Germany is arout $60k and it is not a pristine one...

Lee

JMarch had a worked E30 M3 but he's not a believer anymore and went the P car route. Sport Evo in Germany is about the equivalent of $60K US? wow. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised but damn.

[TwoJ's]

yep, please continue to think that, more driving fun for me. who would want a mass produced volkswagon when they can own a car that is only 1 in under 6000 left on the planet? the one car people still rave about even though its 20 years old? the same argument can be had for any bmw m3 made after this. there are tens of thousands of e36s and e46s m cars. id be willing to bet that over 3/4 wish they could find a e30m3 to drive.

go back to lurking, you bother me.

You have caught the hilariouss s14 arrogance. e30m3's are really cool cars, and they were/are great racers but they are not so spectacular that I would take one over a Porsche that is better in every single aspect; more attractive, faster, better handling, more comfortable etc.

[smonkbmw]

You have caught the hilariouss s14 arrogance. e30m3's are really cool cars, and they were/are great racers but they are not so spectacular that I would take one over a Porsche that is better in every single aspect; more attractive, faster, better handling, more comfortable etc.

yes i have, but some things that were said fall into valid facts, epecially regarding cost vs production numbers etc. i dont see a porsche being better in every aspect that youve listed though. being more attractive is up to the individual. being faster is easy, let me build a s14 up to 3-400hp and see what power to weight ratios accomplish. better handling? have you ever drove one? there is a pretty common fact in that community, once the tail is out, youre done! the weight of it having a rear mounted engine and swinging that weight out means you lose it far quicker. how is that better? more comfortable? at least a e30m3 has a somewhat useable back seat, more of a variety of suspension options.

i guess its open to interpretation.

[Alkasquawlik]

Reign, you are a moron.

And the Porsche vs E30 M3 debate is totally up to the individual and the reasons for why they want to purchase said car

[Holland]

What you do is go and take the 996 for a spin, and then go buy the M3. I drive new Corvettes, and ZO6's, they are fun to drive, but I wouldn't own one.

[chucko]

who would want a mass produced volkswagon when they can own a car that is only 1 in under 6000 left on the planet?

I agree with much of what you said but this statement just can not be justified. With 5000 coming to the US and over 17000 built, I don't know how you can come up with 6000 remaining.

Something else to consider about the E30 M3 is that it is one of the few attainable cars that are actually increasing in value. It is not unheard of to sell an E30 M3, after some years of use (without any modifications other than normal maintenance), for the same or more than what you paid for it .

[smonkbmw]

I agree with much of what you said but this statement just can not be justified. With 5000 coming to the US and over 17000 built, I don't know how you can come up with 6000 remaining.

ok so i was off, my bad. :D. STILL there are no where near as many left when compared to any of the cars mentioned thus far

[TwoJ's]

yes i have, but some things that were said fall into valid facts, epecially regarding cost vs production numbers etc. i dont see a porsche being better in every aspect that youve listed though. being more attractive is up to the individual. being faster is easy, let me build a s14 up to 3-400hp and see what power to weight ratios accomplish. better handling? have you ever drove one? there is a pretty common fact in that community, once the tail is out, youre done! the weight of it having a rear mounted engine and swinging that weight out means you lose it far quicker. how is that better? more comfortable? at least a e30m3 has a somewhat useable back seat, more of a variety of suspension options.

i guess its open to interpretation.

My good friend has an 88 with a fresh 2.5 and a well sorted suspension. I've driven it and I love the way that it drives. It's relatively fast and handles great. But I've also driven a lowly stock 911 and I thought that it was a better driving experience.

I'm not trying to start an e-fight though, I really do see what you meant.

[smonkbmw]

I'm not trying to start an e-fight though, I really do see what you meant.

ah none taken.

the porsche does win at the fact that BMW quit making cars like the e30m3 and instead started weighing them down and installing all sorts of "convienence features". porsche still makes carbon door, no power window, no radio/sat nav, no frills all out ass kickers.

personally, as ive said in other threads. id like to see a 125i. a stripped down 1 series with a 2.5 4cyl using some sort of vanos to squeeze 250+-hp. some sort of wide body modification. no radio, ac, and power anything. a all out track car from the factory. oh well, it wouldnt sell but a few thousand cars, but id like to see one