SilberAdler the 318i

[Danny]

Stock M10 + boost > Stock M42 + boost.

[mdschurtz]

so Danny, you think he should go ahead and stick with the M10 and just turbo it in the future, because i know for a fact he is asking for suspension stuff for christmas and if he went m50 wouldnt he have to redo his springs due to the weight differences?

[Danny]

so Danny, you think he should go ahead and stick with the M10 and just turbo it in the future, because i know for a fact he is asking for suspension stuff for christmas and if he went m50 wouldnt he have to redo his springs due to the weight differences?

No he wouldn't have to redo springs if he swapped a 6cyl in, it would be negligible.

I'd stick with the M10 over an M50 anyday, best bang for the buck IMO.

[Jaxx_]

i'd stick with the m10 over an m50 anyday, best bang for the buck imo.

<3

[HarryPotter]

he's right.

[RainierHooker]

Everything Danny said here is 100% correct (damn, I feel dirty all of a sudden). The M10 is a much stronger platform for turboing and is a much much cheeper engine all around. Just think 2002 Turbo and the E30 M3, which is M10 based.
If the OP wants maximum power for the minimum hassle, turbo M10 is definatley the way to go.

[trackjunkie21]

It cost too much get m50 power out of the m10. Just buy a m50 if you just want a nice pile of power. It is not the fastest but makes a HUGE difference over the m10,42 and m20s

lol, you can get pretty good numbers on stock motronic and stock internals. You can push 12 psi on stock Motronic, so I've heard.

[mdschurtz]

any one know any info on possibly getting a turbo and intercooler and what piping you can from pull a part and peicing it together on an m10, would it work, how much cutom fab would need to be done (other than headers, buy those offline)?

[Jaxx_]

any one know any info on possibly getting a turbo and intercooler and what piping you can from pull a part and peicing it together on an m10, would it work, how much cutom fab would need to be done (other than headers, buy those offline)?

get a turbo from an old volvo or saab and it's intercooler. you could get a K03 off a VW guy if he's upgrading turbos...

you won't need headers -- you can flip over the exhaust manifold and put a turbo flange on the collector, it's what 2002 guys do. It's log style so you'll get one end really hot, but it's cheap as fuck.

I have 30# injectors from my old 1995 turbo volvo, which is nice to compensate for the higher fuel need. You'll need some management, at the very least a wideband.

after that, you're talking about a downpipe and IC pipe and intake pipe fabbing. Then you need your coolant and oil. RRFPR wouldn't hurt either to compensate for the turbo charge in the intake.

I'm sure I'm missing something, but that's the basics.

[mdschurtz]

^^^ the OP is one of my good friends and i am going to live vicariously through him until i get my e30, but we work on cars alot together and it helps to know the info on what he wants to do. good to know that he can turbo this puppy for fairly cheap.
great post thanks man

[EThirty318i]

Yes, thanks everyone for your in put on this! It is clear that turboing the m10 is my best bet! I'm going gto start gathering parts asap! Any recomendations?

[Jaxx_]

you guys should come out to the last e30 meet in greensboro on saturday!

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=189368

meet some other r3v/e30 guys and learn a bit. I'll be there, for a little while at least.

[mdschurtz]

uhggggg if i wasnt in college and had my car i would so be there. i will be in raliegh if you wanna go for a little drive

[EThirty318i]

I'll try and be there!! I will hopefully have it inspected by tomorrow night/ early saturday!!
If not i'll still try and make it out.

[EThirty318i]

Well got an update!
So i changed my mind. i took the 87' vert apart, replaced the oil pan, water pump, timing belt, tensioner, plugs, wires. Got Poly racing motor mounts. took my flywheel to the machine shop. came back at 10.5lbs :D got a free used clutch with 5k on it. motor, tranny, 3.73LSD going in this weekend. and I'm getting a Turner chip and 173 ecu this weekend as well as 19lb injectors.
pics will come this weekend!