Project: BMW E30 323i to Alpina C2 2.7

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  • 5ickride
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    Saludos Fernando! Otro paisa en este mundo de los e30s. Me alegro encontrarte aqui tienes on coche fenomenal! De que partes eres? Mis padres son de Medellin pero viven ahora en Armenia. Llo estoy aqui en los estados unidos.

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  • BMWE34M5
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    Fernando, I am glad we could help you get some of the parts you needed.
    Your car looks awesome!

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  • e30m3s54turbo
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    Fernando, any up dates? The car looks awesome!

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  • pilotskillse30
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    su carro esta tremendo..que belleza

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  • pukar
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    holy crap...that car is stunning mr v! nice work!!!

    any updates?

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  • fdovargas
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    Some pictures:











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  • sapurvis
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    Beautiful color! One of the nicest colors I've ever seen. I love the ALPINA bits! She is one sweet looking E30 for sure!

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  • I8UR911
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    This car is amazing. Great work!!!




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  • fdovargas
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    Originally posted by Ray Smoodiver
    Who made the Alpina VIN plate and ID plate? They look amazing!
    I'm selling these plates on eBay (VIN and ID)

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-Alpina-E...6&cmd=ViewItem

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/300943036478...84.m1559.l2649


    Originally posted by e30m3s54turbo
    If you can find some thing AC Schniitzer carpet screws like these. It might work for you.



    Good idea!!!!!!, i'll look for this

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  • e30m3s54turbo
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    Originally posted by fdovargas
    Hi Raul,

    I'm planning install the front spoiler deco stripes only, i'm not sure if gold or silver. For the alpina dead pedal, not sure, i dont like drill the metal floor
    If you can find some thing AC Schniitzer carpet screws like these. It might work for you.


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  • fdovargas
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    Originally posted by e30m3s54turbo
    Fernando, on your build I didn't see a Alpina dead pedal or Alpina deco stripes. Are you planning to install? I bought 2 Hartge and 1 Alpina deco stripes Here is a link to Alpina deco stripes from the UK.

    http://bygonedecals.com/products/01-...series/alp-e30
    Hi Raul,

    I'm planning install the front spoiler deco stripes only, i'm not sure if gold or silver. For the alpina dead pedal, not sure, i dont like drill the metal floor

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  • e30m3s54turbo
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    Fernando, on your build I didn't see a Alpina dead pedal or Alpina deco stripes. Are you planning to install? I bought 2 Hartge and 1 Alpina deco stripes Here is a link to Alpina deco stripes from the UK.

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  • Victor_PR
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    Hola Fernando!
    It's Victor from PR.
    Like I've said before, you have a nice collection of pristine Bimmers. I sold my 2002 and have been holding on to my E30.
    Keep the pics coming please!!
    Regards,

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  • Ray Smoodiver
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    Who made the Alpina VIN plate and ID plate? They look amazing!

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  • immiseo
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    Hi

    So we all know the general E30 models, but your wondering to yourself… what are the other non traditional models offered by other companies?
    Ill try to cover the following:
    Alpina
    Hartge
    AC Schnitzer
    Alpina:
    BMW ALPINA C1 2,3 / 1






    Based on BMW 323i (E30) 2-door Production 8/1983 - 11/1985











    ALPINA Engine C1/1*: Cylinder 6
    Capacity cm³ 2316
    Max. power kW/bhp 125 / 170
    Max. torque Nm 225


    Performance: Acceleration0-100 km/h s 7.8
    Top speed km/h 213


    Fuel consumption: at 90 km/h l/100 km 7.1
    at 120 km/h l/100 km 9.1
    Urban l/100 km 13.9



    Value: ~$15,000
    Chamonix with wide silver and narrow gold stripes, grey-striped Alpina interior, automatic transmission, driven only 92,300 km (58,000 miles), completely original, authentic Alpina in excellent condition. $14,900. E-mail or call for additional details and photos.





    BMW ALPINA C1 2,5

    Based on BMW 325i (E30) 2-, 4-door Production 10/1986 - 7/1987


    ALPINA Engine C2/3*: Cylinder 6
    Capacity cm³ 2494
    Max. power kW/bhp 140 / 190
    Max. torque Nm 235


    Performance: Acceleration 0-100km/h s 7.2
    Top speed km/h 220


    Fuel consumption: at 90 km/h l/100 km 6.6
    at 120 km/h l/100 km 8.3
    Urban l/100 km 12.5







    BMW ALPINA C2 2,5

    Based on BMW 325i (E30) 2-, 4-door Production 7/1985 - 11/1986


    ALPINA Engine C2*: Cylinder 6
    Capacity cm³ 2552
    Max. power kW/bhp 136 / 185
    Max. torque Nm 246


    Performance: Acceleration 0-100 km/h s 7.1
    Top speed km/h 220


    Fuel consumption: at 90 km/h l/100 km -
    at 120 km/h l/100 km -
    Urban l/100 km




    BMW ALPINA C2 2,7


    Based on BMW 325i (E30)
    2-, 4-door, Allrad, Cabrio Production 4/1986 - 7/1987



    ALPINA Engine C2/1*: Cylinder 6
    Capacity cm³ 2693
    Max. power kW/bhp 154 / 210
    Max. torque Nm 267


    Performance: Acceleration 0-100 km/h s 6.9
    Top speed km/h 230


    Fuel consumption: at 90 km/h l/100 km 6.7
    at 120 km/h l/100 km 8.,5
    Urban l/100 km 12.8

    BMW ALPINA C2 2,7

    Based on BMW 325i (E30)
    2-, 4-door, Allrad, Cabrio Production 4/1987 - 7/1987


    ALPINA Engine C2/2*: Cylinder 6
    Capacity cm³ 2693
    Max. power kW/bhp 149 / 203
    Max. torque Nm 265


    Performance: Acceleration 0-100 km/h s 6.9
    Top speed km/h 227


    Fuel consumption: at 90 km/h l/100 km 6.7
    at 120 km/h l/100 km 8.5
    Urban l/100 km 12.8


    BMW ALPINA B3 2,7

    Based on BMW 325i (E30) 2-, 4-door,
    Allrad, Cabrio, Touring Production 8/1987 - 6/1992


    ALPINA Engine C2/2*: Cylinder 6
    Capacity cm³ 2693
    Max. power kW/bhp 150 / 204
    Max. torque Nm 265


    Performance: Acceleration 0-100 km/h s 7.1 (7.5)
    Top speed km/h 227 (224)


    Fuel consumption**: at 90 km/h l/100 km 7.1 (7.5)
    at 120 km/h l/100 km 8.9 (9.0)
    Urban l/100 km 13.2 (13.5)





    BMW ALPINA B6 2,8 / 1

    Based on BMW 323i, 325i (E30) 2-, 4-door Production 3/1984 - 7/1986


    ALPINA Engine B6/2: Cylinder 6
    Capacity cm³ 2788
    Max. power kW/bhp 154 / 210
    Max. torque Nm 270


    Performance: Acceleration 0-100 km/h s 7.2
    Top speed km/h 230


    Fuel consumption: at 90 km/h l/100 km 7.9
    at 120 km/h l/100 km 9.9
    Urban l/100 km 15.3




    BMW ALPINA B6 3,5

    Based on BMW 323i, 325i (E30) 2-, 4-door Produktionszeitraum 11/1985 - 7/1987


    ALPINA Engine B10/2: Cylinder 6
    Capacity cm³ 3430
    Max. power kW/bhp 192 / 261
    Max. torque Nm 346


    Performance: Acceleration 0-100 km/h s 6.4
    Top speed km/h 250


    Fuel consumption: at 90 km/h l/100 km 8.3
    at 120 km/h l/100 km 9.8
    Urban l/100 km 15.7




    BMW ALPINA B6 3,5

    Based on BMW 325i (E30) 2-, 4-door Production 8/1986 - 7/1987


    ALPINA Engine B10/3: Cylinder 6
    Capacity cm³ 3430
    Max. power kW/bhp 187 / 254
    Max. torque Nm 320


    Performance: Acceleration 0-100 km/h s 6.6
    Top speed km/h 246


    Fuel consumption: at 90 km/h l/100 km 8.5
    at 120 km/h l/100 km 10.0
    Urban l/100 km 15.9




    BMW ALPINA B6 3,5

    Based on BMW 325i (E30) 2-, 4-door Production 11/1987 - 12/1990


    ALPINA Engine B10/5: Cylinder 6
    Capacity cm³ 3430
    Max. power kW/bhp 187 / 254
    Max. torque Nm 320


    Performance: Acceleration 0-100 km/h s 6.6
    Top speed km/h 246


    Fuel consumption: at 90 km/h l/100 km 8.5
    at 120 km/h l/100 km 10.0
    Urban l/100 km 15.9



    BMW ALPINA B6 3,5 S

    Based on BMW M3 (E30) 2-door Production 11/1987 - 12/1990 ALPINA Engine B10/5: Cylinder 6
    Capacity cm³ 3430
    Max. power kW/bhp 187 / 254
    Max. torque Nm 320


    Performance: Acceleration 0-100 km/h s 6.6
    Top speed km/h 251


    Fuel consumption: at 90 km/h l/100 km 8.5
    at 120 km/h l/100 km 10.0
    Urban l/100 km 15.9
    Hartge:
    Hartge H23
    The H23 was almost the same as the modified 323i Alpina C1 2.3.
    Hartge took the 170 hp 2.3 liter engine and did similar modifications methods used by Alpina
    A much better camshaft and cylinder head
    forged pistons to raise compression to 10:1
    The manifold uses usually 40mm diameter pipes for the exhaust.
    The H23 also has a special cast aluminum cam cover.
    The engine was given the code: MB9E
    7.6 J x 16 “Hartge 11 spoke with 195/50 front tires and 225/45 rear tires.
    Came with Bilstein.
    40% Limited slip differential and stronger Anti roll bars were options, but all cars
    had polished strut braces labled Hartge.
    Inside: Hartge emblems on the instruments. 4 spoke Momo steering wheel Hartge.
    Many cars had Hartge Body Kit, including front and rear spoilers and side skirts.
    Unlike Alpina, Hartge was willing to sell complete Bodykits and Motors separately.

    Hartge H26 (323i)
    This modification took the 323i even further with 190hp.
    The car is almost the same as the H23, but with a capacity increase.Based on the MB10E engine cylinder block it was fitted with a 525d 323i crankshaft and associated connecting rods with special pistons. Like Alpina gave it a cc to 2554cc. The H26 (323i) using a compression ratio of 10:1 and a 3,45:1 or 3,25:1 limited slip differentials. Hartge anti-roll bars were standard on the H26
    0-100 kph in 7 seconds it was a 2.5L stroker essentially with 190hp




    Hartge H26 (325i)
    Based on the 325i, the conversion is very similar to the H23,
    wheels, steering wheel, instruments, emblems and engine work. But this time
    Hartge has been kept on the cylinder head, has a hotter camshaft,
    the exhaust manifold, and ECU re-programmed.
    Power had been screwed to the standard 170 HP 190PK. Engine code was: MB16E.
    Final ratio was 3,64:1, Tyre sizes 195/50 front and rear.
    Hartge H27
    Hartge did like the Alpina C2 2.7 a 2.7 conversion,
    although it is not known whether there is a standard diesel or 2.7 ETA camshaft used.
    Power was 210 hp with a compression ratio 10,2:1. The rest of the car was a typical Hartge conversion, although the H27 has 205/50 tires.
    Engine Code: MB18E

    Hartge H27 SP
    With a special induction system for the M20 with a Ferrari-like intake manifold,
    <Where each cylinder had its own throttle, individual throttle bodies>
    Power was at 220 HP with 6400rpm. No specific engine code.

    Hartge H28
    Ill let the picture talk:

    Hartge H35
    Another crazy creation, this was the standard E30 body with the 250 hp 3.5 liter M30.
    Not as fast as the Alpina B6 3.5, but with a typical frame and 296mm rotors Hartge,
    still a high quality car.








    Hartge H35-24
    A car for the fools among us! With a standard E30 body,
    but with the s38b35 from the e24 M6 and e28 M5 - 286 hp, very fast! Maybe too fast,
    1 of 6:




    AC SCHNITZER ACS3
    • 0-60 7.2sec
    • Top Speed 150mph
    • HP 220
    • Weight 2600lbs










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