M30b34 E30 twin-screw supercharged muscle car

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  • LJ851
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2010
    • 7918

    #331
    Not sure with boost, 85% is a rough guess of a NA 2V engine.
    Lorin


    Originally posted by slammin.e28
    The M30 is God's engine.

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    • Ether-D
      R3VLimited
      • Sep 2011
      • 2838

      #332
      That's what was troubling me, the boost part. So it will be over 100 when forced. I'll run the calculator a few more times with 100+ as the VE and see what that gives me.
      Originally posted by Andy.B
      Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
      1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
      ~~~~~~~~~~
      I was born on 3/25…
      ~~~~~~~~~~

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      • Ether-D
        R3VLimited
        • Sep 2011
        • 2838

        #333
        In order to get a runner size of 1 5/8", it had to have a VE of 140. That doesn't seem to crazy right?
        Originally posted by Andy.B
        Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
        1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
        ~~~~~~~~~~
        I was born on 3/25…
        ~~~~~~~~~~

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        • The Dark Side of Will
          R3VLimited
          • Jun 2010
          • 2796

          #334
          Originally posted by LJ851
          Not sure with boost, 85% is a rough guess of a NA 2V engine.
          I think 85% is too high.
          VE relates volume of air through the engine to the engine's volumetric pumping rate. We'll assume for the sake of this discussion that air through the engine is the same as air trapped in the chambers and used for combustion. Air trapped in the chambers for combustion translates directly to torque... so specific torque is a proxy for VE.

          An S54 makes 85 ftlbs/liter. That's the highest specific torque from a naturally aspirated production engine I've ever come across, so I call that 100%. An M30 at 210(?) ftlbs and 3.4 liters is 62 ftlbs/liter. 62/85 = 0.73, or about 73% VE.

          So if the engine has 73% stock, then 140% represents about 14# of boost, assuming ideal intercooling efficiency.

          I think 140 is reasonable as a goal for the final state of tune of the engine.

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          • Ether-D
            R3VLimited
            • Sep 2011
            • 2838

            #335
            ^Werd.

            On another note, I picked up a m54 crank pulley today to modify and make fit to run the charger. Little by little...
            Originally posted by Andy.B
            Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
            1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
            ~~~~~~~~~~
            I was born on 3/25…
            ~~~~~~~~~~

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            • The Dark Side of Will
              R3VLimited
              • Jun 2010
              • 2796

              #336
              Originally posted by Ether-D
              It was e23 then. But mine is still different. It looks to come out straight like the one you posted, but that part is blocked off and then it jogs upward, which is open. I'll post a pic.

              Weird.
              You might simplify your plumbing by getting the other fitting, but this helps out with the coolant circulation problem noted above.

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              • Ether-D
                R3VLimited
                • Sep 2011
                • 2838

                #337
                Right?

                Yeah, so I need to gather the ole thoughts. I'm running around like a chicken without a head here. Must focus.

                To do:
                Wiring
                3rd pedal
                Make a decision on intake setup
                Intake setup
                Cooling setup
                Suspension
                Brakes
                Interior

                This should finished lickety-split. :/
                Originally posted by Andy.B
                Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
                1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
                ~~~~~~~~~~
                I was born on 3/25…
                ~~~~~~~~~~

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                • agent
                  Vice Grand Pubaa
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 7960

                  #338
                  Originally posted by Ether-D
                  This better be finished by April.
                  Originally posted by kronus
                  would be in depending on tip slant and tube size

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                  • Ether-D
                    R3VLimited
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 2838

                    #339
                    I know…
                    Originally posted by Andy.B
                    Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
                    1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
                    ~~~~~~~~~~
                    I was born on 3/25…
                    ~~~~~~~~~~

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                    • frankenbeemer
                      R3VLimited
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 2260

                      #340
                      Originally posted by LJ851
                      Not 100.
                      That made me laugh.

                      Keep it up Ether-D, I love this thread.
                      sigpic
                      Originally posted by JinormusJ
                      Don't buy an e30

                      They're stupid
                      1989 325is Raged on then sold.
                      1988 325 SETA 2DR Beaten to death, then parted.
                      1988 325 SETA 4DR Parted.
                      1990 325i Cabrio Daily'd, then stored 2 yrs ago.

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                      • Ether-D
                        R3VLimited
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 2838

                        #341
                        Alright. I've got the b35 harmonic balancer (HB) and it seems that when I stick it on the b34, the missing two teeth should be just before the cps when motor is at tdc like the single tooth is from the b34 HB. But the gap is actually about 120 degrees past the cps. What is this tomfoolery? And does that mean I need to move the cps bracket to where the gap is, or move the gap to where the cps is (same result).

                        B34 HB at tdc.


                        B35 HB on B34 at tdc. The tdc mark on the b35 HB is lined up with the timing cover mark. Just the gap is not where I expected it to be.
                        Originally posted by Andy.B
                        Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
                        1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
                        ~~~~~~~~~~
                        I was born on 3/25…
                        ~~~~~~~~~~

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                        • ThatOneEuroE30
                          R3V OG
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 8626

                          #342
                          I think I had the same problem. There is an extra sport for the bracket you gotta take the balancer off put the bracket on then the balancer. Or did you do that?


                          1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
                          1991 318i 4dr slick top


                          Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
                          Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
                          Mtech 2 turbo restoration
                          Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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                          • Ether-D
                            R3VLimited
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 2838

                            #343
                            Looking at an m20b25 it appears to be in the same place relative to tdc. About 120 degrees past the cps. So much ado about nothing?
                            Originally posted by Andy.B
                            Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
                            1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
                            ~~~~~~~~~~
                            I was born on 3/25…
                            ~~~~~~~~~~

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                            • ThatOneEuroE30
                              R3V OG
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 8626

                              #344
                              As long as your gap ain't like this


                              1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
                              1991 318i 4dr slick top


                              Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
                              Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
                              Mtech 2 turbo restoration
                              Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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                              • Ether-D
                                R3VLimited
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 2838

                                #345
                                Yeah, I don't think that's gonna work…
                                Originally posted by Andy.B
                                Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
                                1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
                                ~~~~~~~~~~
                                I was born on 3/25…
                                ~~~~~~~~~~

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