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  • motorprestige
    Mod Crazy
    • Oct 2004
    • 788

    #46
    Dissapointing torque.

    "Having won more road races than any other model in history, the E30 M3 is considered by many to be the world's most successful road race car." - Simply put, E30s kick ass.

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    • nando
      Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 34827

      #47
      Originally posted by motorprestige
      Dissapointing torque.
      how so? it makes more at 3000rpm than a stock M20 makes peak..
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      Bimmerlabs

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      • shiftbmw
        R3VLimited
        • Oct 2005
        • 2012

        #48
        A few subs and a cadillac badge and you could fool people into thinking you're driving an escalade...

        but seriously, not a fan of the wheels. Cool rest of car.
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        "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill

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        • motorprestige
          Mod Crazy
          • Oct 2004
          • 788

          #49
          Originally posted by nando
          how so? it makes more at 3000rpm than a stock M20 makes peak..
          I know, I'm not saying it has low torque, it's just a charecteristic of the m20 to have similar horsepower and torque. While he is making nearly 100 more horsepower, torque is not as significantly increased in comparison to the torque numbers that jordans m20 was making, with less extensive modifacation, and the same displacement. And I would also think the individual throttles would raise the powerband into higher rpm's than it did, impressive engine none the less.

          "Having won more road races than any other model in history, the E30 M3 is considered by many to be the world's most successful road race car." - Simply put, E30s kick ass.

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          • smonkbmw
            Professor
            • Jun 2006
            • 4549

            #50
            Originally posted by PУCCKAЯ_e30
            nvm... i have the total bimmer issue... i could scan it for you guys... if ya want
            id be interested in seeing that..

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            • Mystikal
              Moderator
              Wheel Fitment Expert
              • Nov 2003
              • 9602

              #51
              I wish I had an M20 that peaked at 7000rpm. Jesus.

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              • E304life
                Advanced Member
                • Jul 2005
                • 123

                #52
                Originally posted by motorprestige
                I know, I'm not saying it has low torque, it's just a charecteristic of the m20 to have similar horsepower and torque. While he is making nearly 100 more horsepower, torque is not as significantly increased in comparison to the torque numbers that jordans m20 was making, with less extensive modifacation, and the same displacement. And I would also think the individual throttles would raise the powerband into higher rpm's than it did, impressive engine none the less.

                Things like cam shafts 288 vs 272 have lots to do with if your car makes more torque or horse power and when it makes it.

                Also individual throttles lean towards more horse power because the have short and fat runners.

                Long and skinny makes tq short and fat makes hp.

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                • typhong_e30
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 153

                  #53
                  love the car but it could use a strech

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                  • madjurgen
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • May 2005
                    • 1203

                    #54
                    ban this waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles^^^

                    hes made the same post for all five of his posts here

                    As time went on, the factory developed the car each year, making it faster, more comfortable, and capable of handling at higher speeds.
                    You don’t want this. You want the trickiest, most dangerous, oldest model you can find. Only then can you prove to the world that you’re a man.

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                    • motorprestige
                      Mod Crazy
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 788

                      #55
                      Originally posted by E304life
                      Things like cam shafts 288 vs 272 have lots to do with if your car makes more torque or horse power and when it makes it.

                      Also individual throttles lean towards more horse power because the have short and fat runners.

                      Long and skinny makes tq short and fat makes hp.
                      Yes, i know all this, besides the common misconception about intake runner length/diameter affecting torque output. Put an eta manifold on an m20b25 and it will, and I guarantee this: Make less torque, and power.

                      "Having won more road races than any other model in history, the E30 M3 is considered by many to be the world's most successful road race car." - Simply put, E30s kick ass.

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                      • Jand3rson
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 37587

                        #56
                        Originally posted by motorprestige
                        Yes, i know all this, besides the common misconception about intake runner length/diameter affecting torque output. Put an eta manifold on an m20b25 and it will, and I guarantee this: Make less torque, and power.
                        That may very well be, but I'll gaurantee you this: Put a 325i intake manifold on an eta, and you WILL lose low-end torque. I've done it. The increased airflow is noticeable, but I felt a dip in the bottom end. The long, skinny intake runners of the eta manifold are part of what give the motor its low-end grunt.

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                        • kansas-ix
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 1600

                          #57
                          cream and sugar
                          E30 325ix 62k

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                          • Jhonno
                            Mod Crazy
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 736

                            #58
                            Originally posted by motorprestige
                            Dissapointing torque.
                            how is it disappointing?!!

                            it makes more torque per litre now than a standard m20b25 by quite a bit!

                            the reason it makes alot more power is the fact that it now continue to produce its torque to higher rpms
                            ///M Inside

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                            • Ghost
                              Member
                              • May 2004
                              • 99

                              #59
                              Originally posted by motorprestige
                              Yes, i know all this, besides the common misconception about intake runner length/diameter affecting torque output. Put an eta manifold on an m20b25 and it will, and I guarantee this: Make less torque, and power.
                              It is not a misconception. Perhaps you just need a car with intake tracts that are larger than drinking straws?

                              Cone dodging dog-leg e30

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                              • callaway
                                Noobie
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 4

                                #60
                                please post a VIDEO of that AWSOME car you got there :D

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