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  • Wh33lhop
    R3V OG
    • Feb 2009
    • 11705

    #901
    Yeah, trunk has holes in it and fenders need to be trimmed down. Screw it, super cheap and you never find cirrus painted parts.
    paint sucks

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    • KIRIEIW
      No R3VLimiter
      • Dec 2012
      • 3385

      #902
      I met someone the other day who went down to the Sunnyvale Macco and got there e30 painted, looked like complete crap to me. You could tell the clear and paint was mixed. Said he payed like $800 bucks, and your recommending a $500 job LOL! Not sure why everyone's so crazy about this Oliver guy (no offense intended).

      OP, good job on spending wisely. That hood made a huge difference!


      1992 M tech 2 Convertible - S50 Swap
      1992 e34 Touring- S50 Swap
      1992 325i-S50 Swap (SOLD)

      1995 e36 M3 Mugello Red - S50 (SOLD)
      1991 325i Convertible Laguna Green (SOLD)
      1987 325i (SOLD);1992 M tech 2 Convertible (SOLD)
      1988 325i Convertible Alpine White (SOLD)
      1991
      Brilliantrot Convertible 80k Miles (SOLD)
      1992 325i Convertible Schwarz (SOLD)
      1992 318i Convertible Project-Finished (SOLD)

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      • kronus
        R3V OG
        • Apr 2008
        • 13000

        #903
        I've had two cars done well by Oliver.
        cars beep boop

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        • Cabriolet
          R3V OG
          • Apr 2010
          • 9620

          #904
          you've seen my car and the paint looks good to me. Oliver did well for me.
          Much wow
          I hate 4 doors

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          • KIRIEIW
            No R3VLimiter
            • Dec 2012
            • 3385

            #905
            Huh, guess this kid got screwed and didn't ask for Oliver. Either that or you guys used a different paint brand/ took different steps in application? Like I said this looked like the clear and paint where mixed together and sprayed on the car, possibly just one thick coat.


            1992 M tech 2 Convertible - S50 Swap
            1992 e34 Touring- S50 Swap
            1992 325i-S50 Swap (SOLD)

            1995 e36 M3 Mugello Red - S50 (SOLD)
            1991 325i Convertible Laguna Green (SOLD)
            1987 325i (SOLD);1992 M tech 2 Convertible (SOLD)
            1988 325i Convertible Alpine White (SOLD)
            1991
            Brilliantrot Convertible 80k Miles (SOLD)
            1992 325i Convertible Schwarz (SOLD)
            1992 318i Convertible Project-Finished (SOLD)

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            • 2mAn
              Moderator
              • Aug 2010
              • 20059

              #906
              Seriously, the car looks so much better now. I feel weird
              Simon
              Current Cars:
              -1966 Lotus Elan
              -1986 German Car
              -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

              Make R3V Great Again -2020

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              • Wh33lhop
                R3V OG
                • Feb 2009
                • 11705

                #907
                Originally posted by KIRIEIW
                I met someone the other day who went down to the Sunnyvale Macco and got there e30 painted, looked like complete crap to me. You could tell the clear and paint was mixed. Said he payed like $800 bucks, and your recommending a $500 job LOL! Not sure why everyone's so crazy about this Oliver guy (no offense intended).

                OP, good job on spending wisely. That hood made a huge difference!
                Oliver is a personal friend of ours and I think a lot of people can vouch that he personally does great work. However a $800 paintjob is an $800 paintjob and he can't work miracles, especially when he has others do it as he's running a shop and has to delegate. Cheap paint jobs are cheap for a reason.

                To further address, I don't want to half ass a paintjob and would want to retain Cirrus which is 2 stage. When I asked Olver what it would take to fix the rust hole under the A pillar and spray in cirrus, well it wasn't such a budget job any more. I've got a lot on the list that I'd rather do before paint.
                paint sucks

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                • KIRIEIW
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 3385

                  #908
                  I see, well sorry if I offend anyone. For the record if Eric did get his car painted at Oliver's, it came out awesome compared to this kids. I doubt they sand/primed the car before paint for $800 while I'm assuming Eric did, that's most likely the deal breaker in quality. Plus I'm also assuming Eric didn't go single stage with a clear coat mixed in.


                  1992 M tech 2 Convertible - S50 Swap
                  1992 e34 Touring- S50 Swap
                  1992 325i-S50 Swap (SOLD)

                  1995 e36 M3 Mugello Red - S50 (SOLD)
                  1991 325i Convertible Laguna Green (SOLD)
                  1987 325i (SOLD);1992 M tech 2 Convertible (SOLD)
                  1988 325i Convertible Alpine White (SOLD)
                  1991
                  Brilliantrot Convertible 80k Miles (SOLD)
                  1992 325i Convertible Schwarz (SOLD)
                  1992 318i Convertible Project-Finished (SOLD)

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                  • Wh33lhop
                    R3V OG
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 11705

                    #909
                    I don't think you offended anyone, just keep in mind the customer's decision is just as important as the shop's work. When I first spoke with Oliver before I even knew him, he told me Cirrus was a 2 stage and they can try and replicate something similar in a single stage to spray for cheap but it wouldn't look the same. Where I said no I'd rather do it right or not at all, this kid may not have.

                    Eric paid a lot more than $800. :p
                    paint sucks

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                    • Wh33lhop
                      R3V OG
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 11705

                      #910
                      Hi r3v

                      some stuff has happened

                      First, my trans blew. Lost first and second gear. Someone donated a g250 to the cause and I had a 3.23LSD lying around so I decided to put those in.

                      The g250 (out of an early e36 318/325) is a notoriously weak transmission but the price was right and the gearing was also nice.



                      Please note that if you wish to use an e36 transmission with a single mass flywheel like I did you must also use a euro 323i TOB to take up the extra slack since the single mass flywheel is thinner. I had to pull the trans twice!

                      What's nice about the E36 transmission compared to the E30 transmission? The gear spacing. The G260 from the E30 has always struck me as having widely spaced ratios that can drop the engine out of the powerband. In layman's terms, E36 gearing means the RPMs drop less when you shift as it's more close ratio than the E30 trans.

                      It's subtle but it makes a noticeable difference in the character of the car.

                      Here's the gearing diagram of the g260/4.10. First and second gears are a bit too short to be truly usable.



                      Here's the gearing with the g250/3.23. All gears are a little bit taller but especially first and second. The car stays more in its powerband as a result of the closer gearing.



                      The cammed M50's powerband starts around 4500-5000rpm so the revs shouldn't drop below that when you shift at redline.
                      paint sucks

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                      • kronus
                        R3V OG
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 13000

                        #911
                        "someone"
                        cars beep boop

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                        • phreshkid
                          R3V Elite
                          • May 2009
                          • 4655

                          #912
                          Originally posted by kronus
                          "someone"
                          yeah, what an "a-hole".
                          world renown Harry Potter expert
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                          • kronus
                            R3V OG
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 13000

                            #913
                            yeah fuck that guy
                            cars beep boop

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                            • 2mAn
                              Moderator
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 20059

                              #914
                              Originally posted by kronus
                              yeah fuck that guy
                              Simon
                              Current Cars:
                              -1966 Lotus Elan
                              -1986 German Car
                              -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

                              Make R3V Great Again -2020

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                              • Wh33lhop
                                R3V OG
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 11705

                                #915
                                Originally posted by kronus
                                "someone"
                                Sorry, it should read: a special someone

                                And then a heart. <3
                                Last edited by Wh33lhop; 12-16-2015, 09:11 AM.
                                paint sucks

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