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  • LJ851
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2010
    • 7918

    #361
    ^ It's the rusted hood causing all your problems.
    Lorin


    Originally posted by slammin.e28
    The M30 is God's engine.

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    • not5toes
      Banned
      • Nov 2013
      • 30

      #362
      It really isnt.. I am looking for some solid help. Not bullshit, not games, not trolling.

      That said, I did get the intake manifold off in 45 minutes without breaking anything out in the cold ahaha

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      • Ray Smoodiver
        Moderator
        • Jun 2004
        • 8809

        #363
        You know this is an E30 forum right?

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        • F34R
          sLaughter
          • May 2009
          • 12390

          #364
          Originally posted by not5toes
          the starter IS drawing current. It seems that the road vibrations contribute to the issue.
          You do know that the starter has a relay to open and close when turning over? Once you stop cranking the relay closes and cuts off the power. The starter is not drawing anything, if it was it would turn the engine over via the flywheel. This is proven through testing a starter removed from a car. Give it direct power and it will kick out and function to turn the flywheel. That is the purpose of the relay. You would have a burnt out solenoid if it was turning over all the time.

          I notice you went and tested/cleaned the power block in the bay like I told you to on FB. But did you test the power wire from the block to the starter 12v start stud? Also test your alternator while running for correct readings to charge the battery and operate the car while in use.
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          • Pantless Spency
            It's McRib time!!!
            • Feb 2011
            • 7284

            #365
            Originally posted by Ray Smoodiver
            You know this is an E30 forum right?
            You know we have an e34 dedicated sub forum right? ;)

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            • not5toes
              Banned
              • Nov 2013
              • 30

              #366
              Originally posted by F34R
              You do know that the starter has a relay to open and close when turning over? Once you stop cranking the relay closes and cuts off the power. The starter is not drawing anything, if it was it would turn the engine over via the flywheel. This is proven through testing a starter removed from a car. Give it direct power and it will kick out and function to turn the flywheel. That is the purpose of the relay. You would have a burnt out solenoid if it was turning over all the time.

              I notice you went and tested/cleaned the power block in the bay like I told you to on FB. But did you test the power wire from the block to the starter 12v start stud? Also test your alternator while running for correct readings to charge the battery and operate the car while in use.
              Brandon, I pulled the intake manifold but it got dark - I am planning on hooking the battery back up tomorrow and checking all that out. Time for some maintenance I have been sorta putting off. I am gonna remove the alternator and clean it too.

              Tomorrow I plan on:

              Checking for power when I turn the key at the starter. The starter may be acting up.

              Just so I make sure I am doing it right, I should place the + probe on the positive terminal in the engine bay, and then ground it out on the starter, engine, etc.?

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              • Ray Smoodiver
                Moderator
                • Jun 2004
                • 8809

                #367
                Originally posted by Pantless Spency
                You know we have an e34 dedicated sub forum right? ;)
                You shut up with your logic and junk :p

                SILBER COMBAT UNIT DELTA (M-Technic Marshal)
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                • not5toes
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 30

                  #368
                  I cant wait for sunlight tomorrow to dive back into it.

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                  • iansane
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1341

                    #369
                    Originally posted by F34R
                    Also test your alternator while running for correct readings to charge the battery and operate the car while in use.
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                    • not5toes
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 30

                      #370
                      OK - did more work to it this morning.

                      I removed the alternator, which wasnt very hard I was surprised LOL.

                      I re installed my original battery (its reading 12 volts) and the 80AMP fusible link. Made sure the connections were tight and then went to the engine bay. I checked the voltage between the following points and got around 11.5 volts +/-.1 at these locations:

                      alternator + cable and grounded to engine
                      starter + cable and grounded to engine
                      positive terminal near fuse box and grounded to engine.

                      I tightened down the starter bolt and tried cranking it and to my surprise it cranked over (very weakly though because of the battery).

                      I am running to the store to get some brake cleaner and degreaser, and to get my alternator tested.

                      Making some major progress and its not even 11AM :)

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                      • dirtbag30
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 678

                        #371
                        Alternator.........


                        i have no idea what i am doing with my life

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                        • not5toes
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 30

                          #372
                          Yup its my alternator - took it down to oreilly and had it tested. The asst manager did it and said both times it made a strange/weird whirring noise AND it failed the tests.

                          Replace it or replace brushes?

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                          • LJ851
                            R3V OG
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7918

                            #373
                            Originally posted by not5toes
                            Yup its my alternator - took it down to oreilly and had it tested. The asst manager did it and said both times it made a strange/weird whirring noise AND it failed the tests.

                            Replace it or replace brushes?
                            Have the bearings failed? Is the regulator bad? Bad diodes? Is there a break in the windings? Is the commutator damaged or glazed ?

                            You are in over your head, replace it.
                            Lorin


                            Originally posted by slammin.e28
                            The M30 is God's engine.

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                            • not5toes
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 30

                              #374
                              Bearings feel fine - no play and it rotates very easily and smoothly.

                              Im going to take it apart and examine it, found this article as a general guide - http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=516680

                              A used alternator is $20 so Ill likely go that route. ahaha

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                              • not5toes
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2013
                                • 30

                                #375
                                here is a pic of my voltage regulator + brushes. The one looks very worn?

                                The alternator had no leaves in it and was very clean behind the black plastic cover



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