85 Euro 320i Tranforms (Hartge H35) + H bomb

[cactusjacks1]

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...............interesting.....yours in the pic have OZ markings under the cap?......whats the offset?

Yes to OZ - et 24

[AC Nico]

funny how the valves are mounted in the wheels

[e30m3s54turbo]

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...............interesting.....yours in the pic have OZ markings under the cap?......whats the offset?

Yes to OZ - et 24

Hi Jack. Can you post some pics of your 16" wheels? The ones that Barron posted on the first pic are the same as my Hartge 16" wheels. They have 2 step on the lips. In my opinion the centers were designed as 15" centers. With a 15" center deign oz can make a 1 step 15' lip or 2 step 16''.

funny how the valves are mounted in the wheels

Hell Nico.
Do you have pic of it? I see that you posted one in the rare parts section.

[AC Nico]

somewhere i had a pic of it. but i can snap one the next days.

[e30m3s54turbo]

somewhere i had a pic of it. but i can snap one the next days.

That would be awesome Nico.

In Japan I think they do not allow 3pc wheels. That is why the lip and barrel are welded together. For the valve stem not sure why they do that.

[411]

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Hi Jack. Can you post some pics of your 16" wheels? The ones that Barron posted on the first pic are the same as my Hartge 16" wheels. They have 2 step on the lips. In my opinion the centers were designed as 15" centers. With a 15" center deign oz can make a 1 step 15' lip or 2 step 16''.


Hell Nico.
Do you have pic of it? I see that you posted one in the rare parts section.

..... 15" has 149mm centercap..........3pc has 157mm....but yes they look the same........and you can put 15" lips and barrels on the on the model I posted, just like on a bbs 30 holer', however the inner diameter of OZ lips [although the holes line up] are slightly different

[///Mpowered]

Sweet thread, any updates???

[e30m3s54turbo]

Sweet thread, any updates???

Thanks. On Saturday I give up date on some other Hartge parts.

I been working on my Alpina clone a lot.

[e30m3s54turbo]

Sweet thread, any updates???

Here are some up dates on parts I been collecting for years.

On ebay in Germany there was a Hartge H35-24 or H35 9 quart oil pan. It sold for over 3,110.00 euros = over $4,219.00. I did bid on it and contact the owner to buy it now. He responded just bid. 24 hour to end on ebay he canceled the ebay auction. I emailed him amd responded sold. Somebody paid a lot of money for it. I think A Hartge H35-24 s38 owner bought it. It is very important for a s38 Hartge car because the oil pan allows the engine to sit further back than position 3, the Hartge pan allow the s38 engine to sit further down (almost 2") than e32 or e34 m30 oil pan. It can hold 9 quarts oil. For better cooling. Hartge modified oil pump. The price for it in the day was around $1,000. Hartge never spaced the sub frame from the body.

Here is a link in the rare section for better pic.

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?p=4020354&highlight=Hartge+oil+pan#post4020354

I have a H35-24 oil pan that is broken. I found a guy that he bring it back to its glory days.
E32 oil pan and e12 oil pan.

DSC03484 by m3raul, on Flickr

E12 oil pan

DSC03483 by m3raul, on Flickr
E32 and Hartge H35-24 oil pan

DSC03471 by m3raul, on Flickr
Hartge oil pan

DSC03470 by m3raul, on Flickr

DSC03473 by m3raul, on Flickr

DSC03473 by m3raul, on Flickr


DSC03494 by m3raul, on Flickr

DSC03495 by m3raul, on Flickr

DSC03475 by m3raul, on Flickr

Here some pics of real Hartge H35-24 m3 and Hartge oil pan.

Here is a link to the H bomb!!!!!

http://www.birdsauto.com/editorial/e...-bomb-nov-1997

[e30m3s54turbo]

Here some pics my buddy Frank found in my 1985 Hartge catalog. Hartge H35 kit with Hartge oil pan. Here are some pic of Hartge H27 clone and my old Hartge 17x7.5 17x8.5 3pc 4x100 wheels. I sold Hartge wheels to him 17 years ago. I regret it.


DSC03506 by m3raul, on Flickr

DSC03508 by m3raul, on Flickr

DSC03511 by m3raul, on Flickr

[Alpina]

Hartge E30 M3 S38B36 is for me............. one of the most PURE 6 cyl E30 ever made,,,
by factory or aftermarket tuner

SOLID POWER .. and blinding fast

these cars are most likely the most aftersought M3 on the market and the selling price is tremendeus high,, if it is for sale,, i think 6 cars were made

[Topblag]

I have it on good authority that there is a man in France with a serious Hartge collection buying up all rare parts, including the H35 sump which is pictured above. I was going to bid a number I felt it would cost to recreate one and it was already over 1000 euros, so it was pointless.

It's a problem for anyone wanting to buy parts but an opportunity for those who plan to sell them.

[markseven]

Raul, thanks for the info on why the Hartge sump is important - you need to write a book. Maybe Fred can help get your knowledge on paper.

[QUKBMER]

Raul always delivers when it comes to ACS,Hartge or Alpina rare parts. I got a ACS dead pedal and a 162 alpina front air dam through him. I picked up some 16x7.5 4x100 hartge wheels and a hartge m20 valve cover also along with ebay hartge badges recently.

[e30m3s54turbo]

Hartge E30 M3 S38B36 is for me............. one of the most PURE 6 cyl E30 ever made,,,
by factory or aftermarket tuner

SOLID POWER .. and blinding fast

these cars are most likely the most aftersought M3 on the market and the selling price is tremendeus high,, if it is for sale,, i think 6 cars were made

Yes 6 were made by Hartge factory. Birds Hartge and Hartge Japan built Hartge cars. not sure if they built a e30 m3 H35-24.
Here where they are located.

1) silver e30 m3 H35-24 in Germany.
2) red e30 m3 H35-24 in Belgium.
3) diamond blk e30 m3 H35-24 in Belgium.
4) red e30 m3 H35-24 in Switzerland.
5) white e30 m3 H35-24 in United Kingdom.
6) red e30 m3 H35_24 in United Kingdom.

I have it on good authority that there is a man in France with a serious Hartge collection buying up all rare parts, including the H35 sump which is pictured above. I was going to bid a number I felt it would cost to recreate one and it was already over 1000 euros, so it was pointless.

It's a problem for anyone wanting to buy parts but an opportunity for those who plan to sell them.

Hello Colin.
I saw you posted on E30 Zone net you were will to pay 800 pound. I was ready to bid at least $3000. The seller Steve cancelled the auction. He had a private buyer that paid a lot of money. I found out how bought it. I contacted the buyer he emailed me back that he was going to make some copies of the Hartge H35 oil pan. I also asked if he was going to produce the oil pump. He wrote that he was going to contact me when he was ready to sell one.

Raul, thanks for the info on why the Hartge sump is important - you need to write a book. Maybe Fred can help get your knowledge on paper.

Hello Mark.
The Hartge H35 oil pan allow the s38 b35 motor sit closer to the sub frame with out using 20mm spacer between the body and sub frame. Hartge oil pan allow the motor sit a full 1" back more than a e34 or e32 oil pan.

Raul always delivers when it comes to ACS,Hartge or Alpina rare parts. I got a ACS dead pedal and a 162 alpina front air dam through him. I picked up some 16x7.5 4x100 hartge wheels and a hartge m20 valve cover also along with ebay hartge badges recently.

Hello Terry.

Let me know when you need help finding some rare parts. I am always ready to help you buddy.