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    [QUOTE=411;4021310][I]...

    ...............interesting.....yours in the pic have OZ markings under the cap?......whats the offset?

    Yes to OZ - et 24
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      funny how the valves are mounted in the wheels
      *** For sale: euro stuff, BBS steering wheels, smoked tail lights, bunch of rare wheels (5x120 and 4x100) ***

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        [quote=cactusjacks1;4021333]
        Originally posted by 411 View Post
        [i]...

        ...............interesting.....yours in the pic have OZ markings under the cap?......whats the offset?

        Yes to OZ - et 24
        Hi Jack. Can you post some pics of your 16" wheels? The ones that Barron posted on the first pic are the same as my Hartge 16" wheels. They have 2 step on the lips. In my opinion the centers were designed as 15" centers. With a 15" center deign oz can make a 1 step 15' lip or 2 step 16''.

        Originally posted by AC Nico View Post
        funny how the valves are mounted in the wheels
        Hell Nico.
        Do you have pic of it? I see that you posted one in the rare parts section.
        Projects Hartge,Alpina & AC Schnitzer Builds.http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=280601
        http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=227993
        http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=289362

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          somewhere i had a pic of it. but i can snap one the next days.
          *** For sale: euro stuff, BBS steering wheels, smoked tail lights, bunch of rare wheels (5x120 and 4x100) ***

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            Originally posted by AC Nico View Post
            somewhere i had a pic of it. but i can snap one the next days.
            That would be awesome Nico.

            In Japan I think they do not allow 3pc wheels. That is why the lip and barrel are welded together. For the valve stem not sure why they do that.
            Projects Hartge,Alpina & AC Schnitzer Builds.http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=280601
            http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=227993
            http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=289362

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              [QUOTE=e30m3s54turbo;4021914]
              Originally posted by cactusjacks1 View Post
              Hi Jack. Can you post some pics of your 16" wheels? The ones that Barron posted on the first pic are the same as my Hartge 16" wheels. They have 2 step on the lips. In my opinion the centers were designed as 15" centers. With a 15" center deign oz can make a 1 step 15' lip or 2 step 16''.


              Hell Nico.
              Do you have pic of it? I see that you posted one in the rare parts section.
              ..... 15" has 149mm centercap..........3pc has 157mm....but yes they look the same........and you can put 15" lips and barrels on the on the model I posted, just like on a bbs 30 holer', however the inner diameter of OZ lips [although the holes line up] are slightly different
              Last edited by 411; 02-09-2014, 11:25 AM.
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                Sweet thread, any updates???

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                  Originally posted by ///Mpowered View Post
                  Sweet thread, any updates???
                  Thanks. On Saturday I give up date on some other Hartge parts.

                  I been working on my Alpina clone a lot.
                  Projects Hartge,Alpina & AC Schnitzer Builds.http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=280601
                  http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=227993
                  http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=289362

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                    Originally posted by ///Mpowered View Post
                    Sweet thread, any updates???
                    Here are some up dates on parts I been collecting for years.

                    On ebay in Germany there was a Hartge H35-24 or H35 9 quart oil pan. It sold for over 3,110.00 euros = over $4,219.00. I did bid on it and contact the owner to buy it now. He responded just bid. 24 hour to end on ebay he canceled the ebay auction. I emailed him amd responded sold. Somebody paid a lot of money for it. I think A Hartge H35-24 s38 owner bought it. It is very important for a s38 Hartge car because the oil pan allows the engine to sit further back than position 3, the Hartge pan allow the s38 engine to sit further down (almost 2") than e32 or e34 m30 oil pan. It can hold 9 quarts oil. For better cooling. Hartge modified oil pump. The price for it in the day was around $1,000. Hartge never spaced the sub frame from the body.

                    Here is a link in the rare section for better pic.



                    I have a H35-24 oil pan that is broken. I found a guy that he bring it back to its glory days.
                    E32 oil pan and e12 oil pan.

                    DSC03484 by m3raul, on Flickr

                    E12 oil pan

                    DSC03483 by m3raul, on Flickr
                    E32 and Hartge H35-24 oil pan

                    DSC03471 by m3raul, on Flickr
                    Hartge oil pan

                    DSC03470 by m3raul, on Flickr

                    DSC03473 by m3raul, on Flickr

                    DSC03473 by m3raul, on Flickr


                    DSC03494 by m3raul, on Flickr

                    DSC03495 by m3raul, on Flickr

                    DSC03475 by m3raul, on Flickr

                    Here some pics of real Hartge H35-24 m3 and Hartge oil pan.

                    Here is a link to the H bomb!!!!!


















                    Last edited by e30m3s54turbo; 11-07-2014, 08:50 PM.
                    Projects Hartge,Alpina & AC Schnitzer Builds.http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=280601
                    http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=227993
                    http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=289362

                    DSC04926 by Raul Salinas, on FlickrDSC03413 by Raul Salinas, on Flickr

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                      Here some pics my buddy Frank found in my 1985 Hartge catalog. Hartge H35 kit with Hartge oil pan. Here are some pic of Hartge H27 clone and my old Hartge 17x7.5 17x8.5 3pc 4x100 wheels. I sold Hartge wheels to him 17 years ago. I regret it.


                      DSC03506 by m3raul, on Flickr

                      DSC03508 by m3raul, on Flickr

                      DSC03511 by m3raul, on Flickr




                      Projects Hartge,Alpina & AC Schnitzer Builds.http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=280601
                      http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=227993
                      http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=289362

                      DSC04926 by Raul Salinas, on FlickrDSC03413 by Raul Salinas, on Flickr

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                        Hartge E30 M3 S38B36 is for me............. one of the most PURE 6 cyl E30 ever made,,,
                        by factory or aftermarket tuner

                        SOLID POWER .. and blinding fast

                        these cars are most likely the most aftersought M3 on the market and the selling price is tremendeus high,, if it is for sale,, i think 6 cars were made
                        Sveinbjörn Hrafnsson

                        E30 CABRIO V12 M70B50 ///
                        ALPINA B10 BITURBO 346 @ 507
                        E34 550 V12 JML


                        Finnish wisdom : If you want to Win,, hire a Finn

                        http://alpina.123.is/pictures/

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                          I have it on good authority that there is a man in France with a serious Hartge collection buying up all rare parts, including the H35 sump which is pictured above. I was going to bid a number I felt it would cost to recreate one and it was already over 1000 euros, so it was pointless.

                          It's a problem for anyone wanting to buy parts but an opportunity for those who plan to sell them.
                          Hartge H35
                          Alpina C2.5
                          325i cabriolet
                          325ix laser blue
                          And many more.....

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                            Raul, thanks for the info on why the Hartge sump is important - you need to write a book. Maybe Fred can help get your knowledge on paper.
                            I Timothy 2:1-2

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                              Raul always delivers when it comes to ACS,Hartge or Alpina rare parts. I got a ACS dead pedal and a 162 alpina front air dam through him. I picked up some 16x7.5 4x100 hartge wheels and a hartge m20 valve cover also along with ebay hartge badges recently.
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                                Originally posted by Alpina View Post
                                Hartge E30 M3 S38B36 is for me............. one of the most PURE 6 cyl E30 ever made,,,
                                by factory or aftermarket tuner

                                SOLID POWER .. and blinding fast

                                these cars are most likely the most aftersought M3 on the market and the selling price is tremendeus high,, if it is for sale,, i think 6 cars were made
                                Yes 6 were made by Hartge factory. Birds Hartge and Hartge Japan built Hartge cars. not sure if they built a e30 m3 H35-24.
                                Here where they are located.

                                1) silver e30 m3 H35-24 in Germany.
                                2) red e30 m3 H35-24 in Belgium.
                                3) diamond blk e30 m3 H35-24 in Belgium.
                                4) red e30 m3 H35-24 in Switzerland.
                                5) white e30 m3 H35-24 in United Kingdom.
                                6) red e30 m3 H35_24 in United Kingdom.
                                Originally posted by Topblag View Post
                                I have it on good authority that there is a man in France with a serious Hartge collection buying up all rare parts, including the H35 sump which is pictured above. I was going to bid a number I felt it would cost to recreate one and it was already over 1000 euros, so it was pointless.

                                It's a problem for anyone wanting to buy parts but an opportunity for those who plan to sell them.
                                Hello Colin.
                                I saw you posted on E30 Zone net you were will to pay 800 pound. I was ready to bid at least $3000. The seller Steve cancelled the auction. He had a private buyer that paid a lot of money. I found out how bought it. I contacted the buyer he emailed me back that he was going to make some copies of the Hartge H35 oil pan. I also asked if he was going to produce the oil pump. He wrote that he was going to contact me when he was ready to sell one.
                                Originally posted by markseven View Post
                                Raul, thanks for the info on why the Hartge sump is important - you need to write a book. Maybe Fred can help get your knowledge on paper.
                                Hello Mark.
                                The Hartge H35 oil pan allow the s38 b35 motor sit closer to the sub frame with out using 20mm spacer between the body and sub frame. Hartge oil pan allow the motor sit a full 1" back more than a e34 or e32 oil pan.

                                Originally posted by QUKBMER View Post
                                Raul always delivers when it comes to ACS,Hartge or Alpina rare parts. I got a ACS dead pedal and a 162 alpina front air dam through him. I picked up some 16x7.5 4x100 hartge wheels and a hartge m20 valve cover also along with ebay hartge badges recently.
                                Hello Terry.

                                Let me know when you need help finding some rare parts. I am always ready to help you buddy.
                                Projects Hartge,Alpina & AC Schnitzer Builds.http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=280601
                                http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=227993
                                http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=289362

                                DSC04926 by Raul Salinas, on FlickrDSC03413 by Raul Salinas, on Flickr

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