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    #61
    Originally posted by E30NJ View Post
    Did the same thing with vinegar for the battery acid that leaked all around and in my glovebox flashlight. Worked like a charm!
    Worked a treat on 4 of the 5 cups of bolts/nuts. The water pump bolts are in pretty rough shape. I may just source some new ones. But I have put them back in vinegar for another 24 hours. See how they turn out tomorrow.

    The upper timing cover was gnarly. Uber gnarly. In fact, the only place on the motor that was nasty with oil or any other liquid weeping out of the engine was from the bottom of this cover. As evidenced by this picture:



    But with a little bit of Zep Commercial Grade Oven Cleaner (which advises not using on Aluminum), I was able to turn it into this:


    It is still drying in the picture. I just sprayed it with the stuff and let it sit for 3 minutes, rinsed off, scrubbed a bit then reapplied. Three times got it to this point.

    I think that Zep Commercial Grade Oven Cleaner will work wonders on the block.
    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

    New Hawtness: 1995 540i/6 Claptrap
    Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
    Defunct (sold): Alta Vista

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      #62



      As you can see, I got the head pulled apart. First off, there was a lot of oil/coolant mixture in cylinders 3, 4 & 5. I couldn't tell if it is was from me pulling head or not, but it looked well mixed. However, I drained the oil just before and other than looking dirty, it had no coolant in it.

      There was a lot of corrosion though and general nastiness as you can see. This is only the second time I pulled a head off an engine and the first time was my wife's MKIV Jetta to do a head gasket. It did not look as bad as this one.

      Anyone have any insights and what I am looking at? The compression test numbers were in the 90s on the middle 4 and 150 on the outer ones. The leak-down test had similar results, but the air sounded like it was rushing out the exhaust valves. Raul's friend chatted with me and he said it is common for the middle of the head's exhaust valves to get hot and stop sealing. I will eventually test the sealing of the valves physically by pouring gas in each of the closed combustion chambers. I will also attempt to see how warped the head is with a straight edge and a feeler gauge.

      Thoughts? Comments?

      Edit: Oh, the cross hatching on the cylinder walls arein great shape. Pistons are in good shape too from what I can tell. I will probably pull the pan and take a look at the underside of the motor. But first, I will have to change one position of the mounting points on my stand. Cause I am a retard.
      Last edited by marshallnoise; 02-06-2015, 10:41 PM.
      Si vis pacem, para bellum.

      New Hawtness: 1995 540i/6 Claptrap
      Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
      Defunct (sold): Alta Vista

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        #63
        I pulled the alternator and bracket off the block today. Doused the piston tops with WD40 and tarped it. I will clean it later. Bigger fish to fry with the head.

        Took the alternator and starter to Vatozone and had them tested. Great shape. They look like hell but I think some vinegar and steel wool will fix that pretty quick.

        While I was there I ordered a new water pump. It has the metal impeller on it thankfully and should be good to go. The guy suggested I hose out the coolant passages and then run compressed air through it to dry it out. I think that's a good idea.
        Si vis pacem, para bellum.

        New Hawtness: 1995 540i/6 Claptrap
        Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
        Defunct (sold): Alta Vista

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          #64
          Got a fair bit done tonight. Wasn't really planning it going so well tonight but it did. I will post in two sections. Hopefully one post can take all the pics I shot.

          Turning back to the frame repair, I decided to get after it tonight. I spent a lot of time thinking about how to bend that piece back into more shape. It is a lot easier to see it in person, but here are all the pictures. The method I used is self-explanatory and so are the results. I am pleased.














          Si vis pacem, para bellum.

          New Hawtness: 1995 540i/6 Claptrap
          Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
          Defunct (sold): Alta Vista

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            #65
            I kind of wanted to mock up the red part a little more seriously than I previously had. In the process, I was able to see how I was going to measure at certain points and visualize how it is going to sit in there. When you sit back and look at things more critically, you really begin to see the car as a geometric shape with lots of parallels.









            The other thing I noticed is that the frame rail that I cut out of the other car was much longer than the one in the blue car. I am pretty sure the junk yard red car was an 87 vert. If you look carefully, you can see the difference in length. I lined up the frame piece out of the red car right next to the place it should be if installed.



            Here are some more shots.





            Legos man. Legos.
            Si vis pacem, para bellum.

            New Hawtness: 1995 540i/6 Claptrap
            Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
            Defunct (sold): Alta Vista

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              #66
              I like the thought process how rebuild your e30.

              Thanks for info on vert in Ecology in OC!!!!
              Projects Hartge,Alpina & AC Schnitzer Builds.http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=280601
              http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=227993
              http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=289362

              DSC04926 by Raul Salinas, on FlickrDSC03413 by Raul Salinas, on Flickr

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                #67
                Originally posted by e30m3s54turbo View Post
                I like the thought process how rebuild your e30.

                Thanks for info on vert in Ecology in OC!!!!
                You bet man! And thanks for the encouragement.
                Si vis pacem, para bellum.

                New Hawtness: 1995 540i/6 Claptrap
                Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
                Defunct (sold): Alta Vista

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                  #68
                  Here are some close ups of the head gasket. It really doesn't look in too terrible of shape. Not sure what brand it is either. The exhaust shields said VR...so I must presume so is this gasket.








                  And I finally did some chamber testing. As expected, chambers 1 and 6 are tight as a drum. But 2 through 5 are leaking very badly from the exhaust side.


                  I used Windex cause it is blue. Easy to see live, tough to see on camera.


                  Chamber for cylinder 1. Loads of fluid, nothing draining out the exhaust port.


                  Chamber for cylinder 2. Fluid is lower because it has been leaking out the exhaust port. You can barely see the fluid at the bottom of the lip there.

                  I didn't take any pics of the straightness of the head. I used a straight edge with a light behind it and yeah...head is warped. Lots of light coming through the center. Much less light in the ends. Don't even need a feeler gauge.

                  So I have some decisions to make on the head. I can either get it fully cleaned, decked and new exhaust valves lapped in, send it out to get fully rebuilt, or take a chance on a used head or two.

                  Cheapest option is to get even two salvaged heads complete for $70 a piece at Ecology. Next option is a set of exhaust valves for $26 x 6 plus a head clean and decking at $90. And I have no idea how much a place like bimmerheads charges for a rebuilt head.

                  Decisions, decisions.
                  Si vis pacem, para bellum.

                  New Hawtness: 1995 540i/6 Claptrap
                  Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
                  Defunct (sold): Alta Vista

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                    #69
                    I just spent a little time with my welder...aaaaaaand I am going to have to rethink the stick welder. I have and planned to use an Everlast 140ST which could to TIG but does ARC welding too. The idea was to use it in stick mode with amps down to 20 amps and use 1/16th rod. Well...I can lay a bead just fine that way. But doing circles, not so much. Between striking an arc and then getting in and out without getting the metal too hot is going to be too much for me.

                    I am going to look into some MIG welders. I guess JGood used a Lincoln Weldpack. Anyone have any ideas?
                    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

                    New Hawtness: 1995 540i/6 Claptrap
                    Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
                    Defunct (sold): Alta Vista

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                      #70
                      So piggy backing on my last post, I got a little better at starting arcs with 6013 5/16 rods. I picked up that 6013 rod and a fresh sheet of 20 gauge metal to play around with. I am all the way down to 22 amps and I am able to start the arc. The problem I am having is that when the rod is brand new, it is harder to start the arc. When it gets about halfway used, then I can consistently start the arc.

                      The other issue I am having is that the slag really kind of confounds where the weld is. You can see the puddle and all, but it is happening so fast because the material is so thin, I am not sure if I am going to join two pieces of metal together.

                      Since my welder will do TIG, I am faffing around with the idea of getting the accessories to work with TIG. Not dealing with the slag will be nice and you can really get super tiny and precise with the arc. The beauty of a TIG weld won't matter much here since it will be painted over anyway and it is not body work. I am going to have to reserach getting tungsten, MIG wire (probably .030) and a bottle of argon with a regulator. That's all I need to get started. Money is tight right now so this part of the project may be on hold.

                      Might start tearing down the cylinder head next week. The way I see it, if the valves are good still then I might be able to just lap them back in. Remember, it's not like I had zero compression nor did the Windex just rush out of the chambers. We'll see.
                      Si vis pacem, para bellum.

                      New Hawtness: 1995 540i/6 Claptrap
                      Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
                      Defunct (sold): Alta Vista

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                        #71
                        My buddy Josh came over (the guy who I bought this car from in the first place) and used my shop press to switch out his e36 control arm ball joints. His first time using one...he was impressed AND now understands the crazy forces at work. Plus, his geometry skills were sharpened a bit. While he was doing that I decided to tear into the head a bit and begin dis-assembly. Right off the bat I broke two exhaust rocker shafts because I am an idiot. I will spare the details, but needless to say, dumb.

                        Here is the head prior to stripping down.


                        Here it is after. To me, the cam journals look really good. The cam itself looks great too.


                        One thing I didn't realize was that the rocker shafts are two piece. That surprised me.

                        Next step is valve removal. Then I will send the head out to be machined and cleaned up. I will ask them about the valve guides and the valves and see if they can be reused. If it all checks out, then it is simply a matter of reassembly at that point with time taken to lap the valves in. Might as well do all of them while I am in there.

                        And I am definitely going to go for a TIG set up on my welder. Just need money. Wife just lost her job so that means I need to tighten up the wallet a bit.
                        Last edited by marshallnoise; 02-16-2015, 04:35 PM.
                        Si vis pacem, para bellum.

                        New Hawtness: 1995 540i/6 Claptrap
                        Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
                        Defunct (sold): Alta Vista

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                          #72
                          Until money comes available to purchase the TIG setup mentioned before, I am persevering with the stick welding stuff. I have watched a couple of hours of videos and have really gotten an idea of what to look for when stick welding. I grabbed a fresh sheet of 20 gauge cold rolled sheet metal (16" by 48") to mess around on. I have been experimenting with heat, starting arcs, not blowing holes, and laying long beads. I am aware that long beads are not going to be an option really because too much heat means warping.

                          Every day or so I am going out there and striking arcs. I figure that's the best way to learn. Doing it. Laying down flat with E6013 5/64 rods, I can go down to 20 amps with good success. With this rod you need a tight arc, which is tough to do. I find that these thin of rods are hard to control until they get down to about half used. Then they stiffen up and you don't need to brace them. So until they get to that point, I kind of do a cue stick setup about 2-3 inches from the arc. A little dab and bam, arc is started. I find the cleaner the metal, the easier the arc is to strike and maintain. This is obvious. So, duh.

                          Anyway, my first attempts are at the top right and continue on down. Amps were up to 60 just seeing what would happen and yeah, blow through. Towards the left I wound down the amps to 20 when flat and 30 when vertical. It took 3 attempts but I finally was able to get the piece on the left to weld down solid in the vertical format. Part of the reason it is so ugly is because I did a bunch of tacks as opposed to a continual bead. I think this is what I am going to have to go with, at least initially.

                          Lots more practice and maybe finding 1/16 rods would be better and easier to control. Enjoy the horrible welds. Critique if you wish too. All the help I can get, the better.







                          Last edited by marshallnoise; 02-20-2015, 08:26 PM.
                          Si vis pacem, para bellum.

                          New Hawtness: 1995 540i/6 Claptrap
                          Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
                          Defunct (sold): Alta Vista

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                            #73
                            Went to the junkyard for a 50% off sale and was pretty happy with the booty. I wanted a newer steering rack for the car at some point so I always had my eye out for a new-to-me rack. I don't need the nicest or newest rack so a Z3 or Z4M rack wasn't ever in the cards. But the e46 racks were something I looked for. Found one! This is just a shot of the plate. It has two torn boots (probably from the asshats at the yard) that will need to be replaced. But I didn't feel any slop when I was testing it out. It came off a 2002 330ci. EDIT: After researching, it IS the famed ZHP Rack! FUCKING SCORE!!! But this will do. I will power wash the piss out of it and do some better pics. Oh, paid $45 bucks.



                            This is an 88 m30B35 head that I pulled from a 735i. I went to another Ecology yard hoping to find a more wrecked one to pull another head but this car proved the best choice of all the m30s available. No coolant splattered all over the engine bay. No ultra clean cylinder head inside. No Victor Reins exhaust manifold head shields. Very clean oil remnant on the dipstick. And best of all, the head bolts were super tight. Very tough to break free. Which I thought on my old head were way too easy to break free in my opinion. As you can see, there is no corrosion around the water jackets or anything. I will do a chamber liquid test and some better pictures later. And this one was $45 as well.


                            In other news, I rode up to Helmet (Hemet, :p) on Friday and looked at a 91 4 Door Alpinewise II. It was, at least in pictures (of course) a pretty smoking deal at $500. It was missing only rear brake rotors, wheels and front/rear bumpers. It had a runing m20 and automatic too. I was contemplating abandoning this project and going with that since I love white cars with tan interiors and the fact it was a 4 door. Upon further inspection, it had damage to the driver's front door (minor) damage to the right rear wheel well (pretty severe) and rust in the trunk. Plus the owner of the car who has a European car repair shop told me it was salvaged. I didn't see any obvious reasons for the salvage title, but no matter. When the OTHER guy took me over to see the car (yeah, that was weird), he let loose that his e36 had 210K on it but he swapped the cluster for one with 150K. He was pretty proud of that. I wasn't impressed. In fact, it pisses me off. Oh well.

                            Oh, and at Home Depot tonight, I was able to source the beginnings of my own home made tram gauge out of 1/2" conduit and a 3/4" steel pipe. The plan is to drill and tap the bigger pipe for a set screw and then drill the ends of the pipes for large nails/bolts (haven't decided). Then I can measure and mark the few measurements I need and then I am ready to get this sucker welded back together.
                            Last edited by marshallnoise; 03-10-2015, 06:57 AM.
                            Si vis pacem, para bellum.

                            New Hawtness: 1995 540i/6 Claptrap
                            Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
                            Defunct (sold): Alta Vista

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                              #74
                              One of the things preventing me from starting to weld on the car is needing to be reasonably sure that I am welding the piece in correctly. Thanks to JGood and his work, I was able to find out the basic measurements I need prior to welding.



                              After PMing him, he said that he kind of winged it as opposed to actually doing detailed measurements when replacing his strut tower. Granted, he didn't have the same level of damage that I did. Since being off a little this deep into the car will translate being way off later in the welding process, I have to be reasonably sure that things are lined up alright.

                              Which comes to my DIY Tram Gauge. Cheap ones are still over $120 bucks. I am far to cheap to spend that kind of coin on something I will use once. So here goes nothing!

                              Parts list:
                              • 3/4" steel pipe
                              • 1/2" electrical conduit
                              • 17/64" drill bit
                              • M10 1.0 DeWalt drill and tap set (freaking amazing thing here for a novice like me)
                              • M10 10mm set screw
                              • Two 1/4" by 6" lag bolts
                              • Eight 1/4" diameter nuts for lag bolts


                              Basically it is as simple as drilling 17/64" holes in the ends of each pipe for the 6" lag bolts secured by the nuts. Then drill and tap a hole in the larger pipe for the set screw. Now you have measurement points that are adjustable. I plan on using the chart above to get basic measurements and draw lines on the electrical conduit for presets if you will.





                              One advantage of using the metal pipe is that if you have a magnetic level like I do, you can pretty easily get at least one dimension level.

                              EDIT: Forgot to mention, total cost? $15 bucks if you already have a drill press. New bits, the bolts and the pipe. The guy at Home Depot tried selling me the stuff for $2 because it was all scrap. But when I went to the register, the lady didn't even bother charging me. Great freaking price!
                              Last edited by marshallnoise; 03-10-2015, 06:58 AM.
                              Si vis pacem, para bellum.

                              New Hawtness: 1995 540i/6 Claptrap
                              Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
                              Defunct (sold): Alta Vista

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                                #75












                                The junkyard proved to be fruitful! I have a good head for $45 bucks!!! 91% Isopropyl Alcohol in the combustion chambers never leaked a drop.

                                Now the chambers are filled with Dawn detergent. Should clean right up. Yayzorz!!!
                                Si vis pacem, para bellum.

                                New Hawtness: 1995 540i/6 Claptrap
                                Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
                                Defunct (sold): Alta Vista

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