Hartge h26 project.....the long road:) Oct 2014 begins:)

[2002jm]

So much Hartge love man. Can't wait to see what this looks like. You got a lot more Hartge parts than I do. Haha I need to get my hands on some of this stuff asap.

thanks, Better get them soon:), they are hard to find. Are you building an h27 engine too?
john

[Bimmer_man]

So much Hartge love man. Can't wait to see what this looks like. You got a lot more Hartge parts than I do. Haha I need to get my hands on some of this stuff asap.

[alexT]

awesome project ! I'll let you know if I find the hartge stuff you need !

[2002jm]

more engine cleaning:)

Had to take it apart to clean.....and some hartge parts that are now on the car.........



enjoy:)

[2002jm]

hartge

Yes, Rob's car and a very nice one.
Big brakes are out there in the future:), but I will keep my eye out for you.
I did get a set of wheels from Rob; funny but they were on the h23:). Then I was over on bimmerforums and Chris was selling a real hartge steering wheel. Well, some how I was able to buy it. There must have been a ton of people trying to get that wheel...now it's on the h26.
The car had one on it back in 85.
Of course the front valance had to come off....sanding and paint made it look pretty good.
Oh and then the fog lights...those things were expensive, but the old ones were junk. I did not even try to sell them.
One day I decided it was time to clean...out came the power washer and away went 25 years of dirt off the car and engine......will share more on the engine cleaning later.....

[2002jm]

wheels

Well, as you can see the enkie wheels were not going to do it for this car. So one of the first hartge buys was a set of 15" hartge wheels and caps.....transformed the look of the car. These wheels are sold and on their way to Portland this next week:) Guess what I found to replace them?????

[2002jm]

The H23 belongs to Robert. It a very nice Hartge H23. The only thing you might have problem finding is the Hartge big brake kit. I been looking for a set for years. I'm still looking!!! Hartge and Alpina big brake kit are all most the same. The only difference is the rotor. Hartge venting of rotor is on the back side of rotor.Alpina rotor for venting is on front side of rotor.
Keep me up dated on Hartge parts you are still looking for.

Thanks Raul: I do appreciate the help on this project. Some of those hartge parts are really hard to find.
I will pm you with a final list of parts. I am really close to being all done:)
Sort-of funny, but I almost bought Robert's car when Ryan had it back over here in Seattle.
jm

[e30m3s54turbo]

The H23 belongs to Robert. It a very nice Hartge H23. The only thing you might have problem finding is the Hartge big brake kit. I been looking for a set for years. I'm still looking!!! Hartge and Alpina big brake kit are all most the same. The only difference is the rotor. Hartge venting of rotor is on the back side of rotor.Alpina rotor for venting is on front side of rotor.
Keep me up dated on Hartge parts you are still looking for.

[2002jm]

Not a real Hartge h26:)?????????

I thought I would mention right at the beginning for those of you that might want to know that this car is not a 'real' Hartge car like the h23 that Ryan had over here in Seattle. I got a nice e-mail from Hartge stating that they do not have any record of the vin and that it was not one of their Performance Plus cars. Well, I had sent them a bunch of paperwork on the car, but after I sent the letter I found out with help from this forum the car was 'built' at Kohl's Automotive...so its as close to a real Hartge that you can get and still it is not one of their cars:). It did have a bunch of hartge parts on it in the beginning and that is what I have been trying to do; is replace the missing parts.
Later; brakes, wheels, and more.....
jm
Here is the h23 I talked about above:

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=214896&highlight=hartge

Here are some of the scanned papers that I have that shows information about the car while it was in Germany. I have more, just have not sent them to photobucket. I do have some documents that show the car was called an h26 in 85, so who knows what really happened to this car. Hartge said the car had some door damage back then, and I think that is why they had to put another stripe on the car....could be wrong:)
click on picture for more pictures:

[2002jm]

got the vibration fixed

I sorta wish I bought this when it popped up for sale. Glad it went to someone who can finish it properly!

Austin, got the vibration fixed this morning. Had to replace two bolts in the flex plate. Now the car is much better....can move through 2-4k rpm without shaking to death:)...
I am hoping to get this car done by summer...well I mean all the parts on it and decent enough to go to a car show or two:)
jm

[2002jm]

you are clear to buy hartge parts soon:)

I see you popping up everywhere snatching hartge pieces. I think I'm going to end up going Alpina only because I don't feel like I have the patience to collect all of the parts slowly - and plus, I'd have to fight you for everything hah.

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Yeh, sorry about that:). But I am down to about 3 more hartge parts and then I am done for now. Will just enjoy the car for what it is:).
Hartge parts are pretty hard to find...I once built a 323i e21 Alpina and it was much easier to find parts. However, I think everything has become harder since 2012...prices seemed to really go up that year!
jm

[2002jm]

the project continues:)

Thanks for all the comments and input about Kohl. I am going to scan some of the documents in this weekend and post them....should be interesting!
Next: I decided that instead of just fixing the one gas leak I would change out all the rubber lines and the vac lines...how do you like that intake boot....fixed that the week I got the car.
Now the only problem was when I fixed all the vac leaks the idle was bout 1300rpm. So, I figured the timing was advanced....yes that was the problem! I took the car in to have the timing belt done and it was 13 degrees advanced. Few other crazy problems like the bent throttle bracket were fixed and now the idle is at 800 and runs great.
Might mention here that during this time of November I pulled all the parts I could get off the front of the engine so I could check the timing belt...
I cleaned everything and put it back together along with a good used alt...the one in the car was shot:).



Not sure if you can see where the throttle bracket was bent. Not sure why it was that way, but now everything is back to normal.
Might mention that everything you see in the front end picture that would come off was taken off and cleaned and sanded and repainted:)

[_kanon]

I see you popping up everywhere snatching hartge pieces. I think I'm going to end up going Alpina only because I don't feel like I have the patience to collect all of the parts slowly - and plus, I'd have to fight you for everything hah.

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[CorvallisBMW]

Wow, looks like it needs lots of work. Good luck!

[mikeedler]

Kohl is an authorized BMW dealership in Aachen. Aachen is where AC Schnitzer is based out of. scan some of that paperwork and post it here, I can translate it for you. Very interesting. I have done a few AC Schnitzer conversions on newer BMWs at the dealership I used to work at. Done a couple of Hartge mods on a few cars over the years too. Sounds like you bought an interesting car. Hartge cars are very rare over here in Germany too.