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  • AWDBOB
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    M3 got a crack free dash today! As well as a fresh heater core+valve, evap valve, etc. Slowly fixing all of the hacks from the previous owner. Head unit soldered+wired to OE specs, harness wrapped in cloth tape, OBC got fresh LEDs, cluster being rebuilt.

    Come late September she will be getting a fresh top end and making her way back to me in Indiana!

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  • AWDBOB
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    Originally posted by Shock(/\)ave
    I understand completely. I'm sure this sort of attention wouldn't bother someone with a large car collection, but when the car represents the realization of a dream which required considerable investment and sacrifice to obtain, it can bother you.

    Here are a few suggestions for you to help mitigate some of your feelings:

    If you haven't already done so, get yourself proper collector car insurance for a declared value high enough to replace the car should it get stolen or totaled.

    Take the car (once it's running obviously) to some classic BMW shows where a lot of the cars in attendance are as nice or nicer than yours. The perspective really helps, as does speaking with fellow owners - especially longer term owners. We have a great classic BMW meet near me called Tedfest which is a perfect example of the kind of show I'm referring to.

    When I go to any more general sort of meet I usually bring whatever the least valuable car I have is (currently a 1985 528e) because I don't want much attention; I like looking at everyone else's cars and learning about them. You have the same option given your (very nice) stable of cars.

    Finally, make yourself drive the car. Schedule a few weeks in the summer when it will be your daily driver, take it on a road trip, just make sure you enjoy it and don't leave it sitting. If you need to let it sit for a while due to circumstance that's okay, but if it's sitting due to apprehension you'll soon form a habit without even being aware of it, and you will eventually sell it someday after realizing someone else would enjoy it more than you have.
    Well said. I think you did a fantastic job summarizing that. I have seen that happen first hand to my Father's '66 Shelby. He started preparing it more for storage than for driving, and a habit was formed.

    The appeal of the M3 is SO strong until it's in your garage, at which point the perspective changes entirely. I am planning on getting out to the vintage this year, which I'm really hoping will provide some enlightenment (as I'm guessing my car won't even remotely compare to the others).

    I agree- I have been planning on taking the iS to the local CCA meets/events. I am far more interested in seeing other cool cars than presenting my own.

    Originally posted by Powling
    ^^^agreed.

    I'm friends with a family that specializes in collecting / restoring million dollar classics. When I start talking with them about insurance just for the storage of the cars, you'd be surprised at how much they spend a month on just storage fire and theft insurance (heres a hint, its probably triple what your M3 is worth).

    Any yet, they still take the cars out and drive them on a weekly basis. What is the point in having them if they can enjoy them right? If they wanted to have them sit and just look at them they would have invested in artwork and not classic cars.

    Plus, if it makes you feel any better just think that there are still people out there doing rallying with their E30 M3's, completely knowing their rise in value.
    Oh, I am sure! That has always been my motto, as I grew up with an incredible car in a plastic shell in the garage that got driven every two years (if not longer). And I always wondered what the appeal was if you weren't planning on driving it.

    Originally posted by reelizmpro
    Don't be scared to drive it hard even if it's once a month. If you baby it or drive it like a 325, then you will be disappointed and your 325 will seem like the better car making you question if the M3 was worth it in the first place especially at today's prices. Realize that it's an E30 but also a very different car. 318iS owners would probably "get it" sooner but a 325i owner would need some time to adjust.

    Money is a huge factor. I know a couple of Evo owners who regularly track their cars. They take them to shows and the track. That's about it. They don't really drive them on the street. They have them transported for maintenance, etc. I envy them in that regard but they don't have that attachment. They also rarely focus on one make/model. That's why you see many restored examples on the market. People move on because to some it's just money. Art in motion.
    I think things will open up when I am able to get some seat time. There is certainly a large money factor involved. You have the folks who stretch to obtain what they have (me), the folks who comfortably support their hobby (probably most on this forum), and the folks who live in excess and are able to regularly track their high dollar rare cars, trailering to/from the track, starting their mornings off with a bolĂ­var and a splash of glenlivet 33.

    This has an extremely large hand in the way you perceive and/or enjoy your cars, and I have a ways to come in that department ;)

    Originally posted by CorvallisBMW
    You had me at "Emma Watson"...
    ;D;D

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  • CorvallisBMW
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    You had me at "Emma Watson"...

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  • reelizmpro
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    Don't be scared to drive it hard even if it's once a month. If you baby it or drive it like a 325, then you will be disappointed and your 325 will seem like the better car making you question if the M3 was worth it in the first place especially at today's prices. Realize that it's an E30 but also a very different car. 318iS owners would probably "get it" sooner but a 325i owner would need some time to adjust.

    Money is a huge factor. I know a couple of Evo owners who regularly track their cars. They take them to shows and the track. That's about it. They don't really drive them on the street. They have them transported for maintenance, etc. I envy them in that regard but they don't have that attachment. They also rarely focus on one make/model. That's why you see many restored examples on the market. People move on because to some it's just money. Art in motion.

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  • Powling
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    ^^^agreed.

    I'm friends with a family that specializes in collecting / restoring million dollar classics. When I start talking with them about insurance just for the storage of the cars, you'd be surprised at how much they spend a month on just storage fire and theft insurance (heres a hint, its probably triple what your M3 is worth).

    Any yet, they still take the cars out and drive them on a weekly basis. What is the point in having them if they can enjoy them right? If they wanted to have them sit and just look at them they would have invested in artwork and not classic cars.

    Plus, if it makes you feel any better just think that there are still people out there doing rallying with their E30 M3's, completely knowing their rise in value.

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  • Shock(/\)ave
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    Originally posted by AWDBOB
    I'm having trouble putting it in words, but it has everything to do with the value/attention. I'm worried about the car. Sounds odd but I'm sure some of you may understand.
    I understand completely. I'm sure this sort of attention wouldn't bother someone with a large car collection, but when the car represents the realization of a dream which required considerable investment and sacrifice to obtain, it can bother you.

    Here are a few suggestions for you to help mitigate some of your feelings:

    If you haven't already done so, get yourself proper collector car insurance for a declared value high enough to replace the car should it get stolen or totaled.

    Take the car (once it's running obviously) to some classic BMW shows where a lot of the cars in attendance are as nice or nicer than yours. The perspective really helps, as does speaking with fellow owners - especially longer term owners. We have a great classic BMW meet near me called Tedfest which is a perfect example of the kind of show I'm referring to.

    When I go to any more general sort of meet I usually bring whatever the least valuable car I have is (currently a 1985 528e) because I don't want much attention; I like looking at everyone else's cars and learning about them. You have the same option given your (very nice) stable of cars.

    Finally, make yourself drive the car. Schedule a few weeks in the summer when it will be your daily driver, take it on a road trip, just make sure you enjoy it and don't leave it sitting. If you need to let it sit for a while due to circumstance that's okay, but if it's sitting due to apprehension you'll soon form a habit without even being aware of it, and you will eventually sell it someday after realizing someone else would enjoy it more than you have.

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  • AWDBOB
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    Originally posted by jhaurimn
    I'm very fortunate to own my m3, but I could never drive and enjoy it like I do my 325.
    Originally posted by stonea
    I'm not sure if you are joking or not, but I have wondered if a E30 M3 is worth it now and days. Obviously its my dream car, but I don't know if I'd ever want to own one.
    Originally posted by Shock(/\)ave
    Well, what were you expecting? I'm really happy I own one, though God has neither spoken to me nor high fived me since I bought mine. ;D

    Seriously though, how has it disappointed you so far?

    I originally bought mine as a nice weather daily to keep the mileage off of my E36 M3, but I started a business and haven't had the time nor the funds to get it to that point.

    It's also managed to increase in value by a factor you would hardly believe in that time, to the point where I bought my E34 M5 to daily instead...
    What jhaurimn said sums it up perfectly. It's certainly my dream car as well, and I am nothing but excited about it! I'm so very thankful for the opportunity to own the car, it just hasn't settled yet. I still feel like it's a car I don't want to drive out on public roads and enjoy the way I do my iX or iS.

    I'm having trouble putting it in words, but it has everything to do with the value/attention. I'm worried about the car. Sounds odd but I'm sure some of you may understand.

    It's my forever car. But it's not the car I immediately desire to go out and drive. I'm hoping that will change with time, though.

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  • Shock(/\)ave
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    Originally posted by AWDBOB
    Don't be jelly! Don't get me wrong, it's crazy, but I can assure you of one thing: owning one isn't all it's cracked up to be.
    Well, what were you expecting? I'm really happy I own one, though God has neither spoken to me nor high fived me since I bought mine. ;D

    Seriously though, how has it disappointed you so far?

    Originally posted by jhaurimn
    I'm very fortunate to own my m3, but I could never drive and enjoy it like I do my 325.
    I originally bought mine as a nice weather daily to keep the mileage off of my E36 M3, but I started a business and haven't had the time nor the funds to get it to that point.

    It's also managed to increase in value by a factor you would hardly believe in that time, to the point where I bought my E34 M5 to daily instead...

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  • stonea
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    Originally posted by AWDBOB
    I can assure you of one thing: owning one isn't all it's cracked up to be.
    I'm not sure if you are joking or not, but I have wondered if a E30 M3 is worth it now and days. Obviously its my dream car, but I don't know if I'd ever want to own one.

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  • jhaurimn
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    Originally posted by AWDBOB
    Don't be jelly! Don't get me wrong, it's crazy, but I can assure you of one thing: owning one isn't all it's cracked up to be.
    I'm very fortunate to own my m3, but I could never drive and enjoy it like I do my 325.

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  • AWDBOB
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    Originally posted by spiDmang
    I am insanely jealous
    Don't be jelly! Don't get me wrong, it's crazy, but I can assure you of one thing: owning one isn't all it's cracked up to be.

    Originally posted by Kershaw
    Awesome dude! Congratulations!
    Thanks, man!

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  • Kershaw
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    Awesome dude! Congratulations!

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  • spiDmang
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    I am insanely jealous

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  • AWDBOB
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    The car is officially in PA with my Father! He is very excited about the project, and I will try to continue to update from his end (expect picture quality to decrease).

    Before she left:




    Back in PA after a quick rinse. Looks like it's going to clean up VERY nice.



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  • AWDBOB
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    Do you folks know how the m3 fuse box differs from a normal e30, if at all?

    Looks like the p/n for the center section is the same on both, so I assume the rest would be?

    https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...FUm4wAod344KLA

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