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  • guitardude
    Wrencher
    • Apr 2008
    • 298

    #91
    Originally posted by smonkbmw
    thought about putting it on, but right now it would get in the way, and that splitter with bone stock suspension would just not look right.
    true true. i need to come up and help one of these days.

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    • Van Westervelt
      R3V OG
      • May 2006
      • 9365

      #92
      Originally posted by UNHCLL
      I was stating the way I would personally attack this.
      Having the bottom end left open to the elements, even with just the front timing covers off doesn't leave me with any confidence in any of the bearings/gaskets/etc. in the bottom end.

      My point being, the way the engine sits right now, you'll be taking things apart again to install the timing chain & guides properly.

      I don't mean to sound presumptuous or arrogant, but I assume this is the first time for either of you working on a S14 in "rebuild/reassmble" mode?

      Just my $.02 observation...

      -CL
      So explain what has to supposedly come off that we installed, in order to do the chain and guides, and why? The cam sprockets are not installed.
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      • smonkbmw
        Professor
        • Jun 2006
        • 4549

        #93
        PROGRESS!!!

        upper pan is off, with VERY little effort. steering rack dropped a lil bit. gonna clean it up, maybe hot tank both pans, order some new hardware.



        promised pics of the early model groupie tails, not the best pics. but i promise they are glossy as stock tails. the smoked section over the reverse light is not as dark as it shows in the pics. i took the pics almost in direct light on a phone, but you can get a idea.

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        • SiGmA_X
          Wrencher
          • Mar 2006
          • 287

          #94
          Just wanted to ask the experts, can you do the timing cover with the pan installed? I'm a M5X guy, and you *can* but it will compromise the headgasket (head to tcover seal) and oil pan gasket if you do...
          :wgaf:

          PNW BMW Crew ///
          '93 325iS
          '99 528iT

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          • Van Westervelt
            R3V OG
            • May 2006
            • 9365

            #95
            Originally posted by SiGmA_X
            Just wanted to ask the experts, can you do the timing cover with the pan installed? I'm a M5X guy, and you *can* but it will compromise the headgasket (head to tcover seal) and oil pan gasket if you do...
            That has to be one of the silliest forms of logic I have ever heard. Are you just mad because you cant borrow my tools? lol
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            • pilotskillse30
              E30 Mastermind
              • Dec 2006
              • 1957

              #96
              WOW..thats what happens when e30 m3's fall in the wrong hands. Good thing she found you! best of luck.
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              • backtrail69
                R3V Elite
                • Jul 2005
                • 4471

                #97
                I would ask Cramer about the oil pump chain slack, I know he had to buy some shims for his pump.
                :: PNW Crew ::
                '87 325 4dr, '74 2002

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                • cramer
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 1812

                  #98
                  Already sent him a PM.

                  Just incase anyone is searching for the info later: I've found varing measurements of how much slack is allowed, but the best advice I found is add as many shims as you can until the pulley can still slide on to the pump shaft.
                  Chris
                  90 Corrado/91 M3/01 M5

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                  • Van Westervelt
                    R3V OG
                    • May 2006
                    • 9365

                    #99
                    Thats what my inclination was Chris.

                    When he got it on and I came over to look at it, I got a little worried with that much play. Almost like he needs a 1/8" shim!
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                    • cramer
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 1812

                      #100
                      I was afraid of that too when I put mine back on, lots of play = huge spacer! But the way to "measure" the slack is to grab both sides of the chain and measure how much it moves inward towards each other. Using that method, even before shims it moved maybe 1/4" inward. It only took a few shims and it barely moves a 1/8" inward.. but if you push on one side, it moves a lot! The pulley becomes really difficult even after a few shims to get back on the pump. Just play with the different shim combos to see what suits it best.
                      Chris
                      90 Corrado/91 M3/01 M5

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                      • cramer
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 1812

                        #101
                        this thing done yet? ;)
                        Chris
                        90 Corrado/91 M3/01 M5

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                        • Van Westervelt
                          R3V OG
                          • May 2006
                          • 9365

                          #102
                          I think he got around to ordering those shims sometime last week. Should see them by the end of August. :)
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                          • cramer
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 1812

                            #103
                            ha! Should use BMA, I get parts in a few days :P
                            Chris
                            90 Corrado/91 M3/01 M5

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                            • Van Westervelt
                              R3V OG
                              • May 2006
                              • 9365

                              #104
                              Me too. I secretly love Patrick. ;)
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                              • So Live
                                R3VLimited
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 2512

                                #105
                                +1 about pat.

                                Looks like some good progress dude. Keep it up and get it done!
                                -Chris

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