DHS 9-page Report on Rightwing Extremism

[ThePotsy]

It's pretty obvious what the Obama administration is trying to do here.

Well, to most people anyways.

Most people meaning right wing extremists right?

Since all right wing people are extremists?

What about people in the middle, do we get a nifty little PDF file on us?

Middle extremists? Midstremist?

Nevermind, that sounds gross.

[E30 Cabrio]

It's pretty obvious what the Obama administration is trying to do here.

Well, to most people anyways.

Regardless, it's part of his M.O. dating back to his earlier campaigns when he smeared his opponents like he did when he had an opponents sealed divorce records unsealed thru a friendly court, then made the information public.

[Collin]

You're arguing semantics. The inference is clear. You're playing the "it all depends on what your definition of 'is' is" game.

Again, no sale. The Obama administration is trying to smear anyone who disagrees with his policies as extremists.

Don't play dumb. We all know what's going on here.

Option #4? Good choice.

The difference between

A. Many rightwing extremists are antagonistic

and

B. A rightwing extremist is anyone antagonistic

is much much more than semantics. I really don't know how to make it any simpler for you.

I'll give it a shot:

"Many people that are assholes disagree with me."

is very different from

"Everyone that disagrees with me is an asshole."

[E30 Cabrio]

You're arguing semantics. The inference is clear. You're playing the "it all depends on what your definition of 'is' is" game.

Again, no sale. The Obama administration is trying to smear anyone who disagrees with his policies as extremists.

Don't play dumb. We all know what's going on here.

[Collin]

No sale. The "leftwing" extremist PDF lists some of the far left whack nut groups that have commited acts of violence by name.

The "rightwing" extremist PDF makes sweeping generalizations that anyone who doesn't agree with Obama policy as a right-wing extremist.

Dear Mr. E30 Cabrio,

You are confusing:

"Many rightwing extremists are antagonistic toward the new presidential administration and its perceived stance on a range of issues, including immigration and citizenship, the expansion of social programs to minorities, and restrictions on firearms ownership and use."

Which is true.

With:

"A rightwing extremist is anyone antagonistic toward the new presidential administration and its perceived stance on a range of issues, including immigration and citizenship, the expansion of social programs to minorities, and restrictions on firearms ownership and use."

Which is false.




Let me isolate the important lines for you, because you're reading comprehension seems to need some help:

A. Many rightwing extremists are antagonistic

is different from, as in not the same as

B. A rightwing extremist is anyone antagonistic

Letter A. is the only one actually in the report. Letter B. seems to be what your rage clouded mind has created for you.

Calling someone's perfectly valid and fact-supported (which I bothered to post in the thread to back up my stance) argument false because you are too hopped up on endorphins from your orgy of angry misreading is, in itself, a false argument.




Please, if I could go so far as to post some more facts to back up my argument...

From the left wing PDF:

— (U//FOUO) Many leftwing extremists use the tactic of direct action to inflict economic damage on businesses and other targets to force the targeted organization to abandon what the extremists deem objectionable. Direct actions range from animal releases, property theft, vandalism, and cyber attacks—all of which extremists regard as nonviolent—to bombings and arson.

Does this mean that every vandal/hacker/thief is a left wing nutjob bent on taking down the government? No. It means that many left wing nut jobs are vandals/hackers/thieves.

From the right wing PDF:

— (U//FOUO) Many rightwing extremists are antagonistic toward the new presidential administration and its perceived stance on a range of issues, including immigration and citizenship, the expansion of social programs to minorities, and restrictions on firearms ownership and use.

Does this mean that everyone that dislikes Obama is a right wing nut job bent on taking down the government? No. It means that many right wing nut jobs dislike Obama.

Eagerly awaiting your...

1. calling this a false argument
2. urging me to use google to find evidence that doesn't exist
3. rabid cackling over my being a left wing nut job bent on freeing all the animals and taking your guns
4. completely ignoring everything I just said and changing the subject

[PiercedE30]

The gov. should do a PPV of Navy snipers taking out 3 teenage black pirates off the coast of Somalia - you know they have footage from many angles, just declassify it - that would set a viewership record & could help retire some of our deficit. No, it's not arrogant, it's reality TV at its finest!!.

THAT would be totally badass.

[cactusjacks1]

??? WTF are you talking about 'world record tax increases'? Lay off the crack, dude.

easy - where have you been as his record tax increases take effect?

[CorvallisBMW]

... they are being held all over the country on TAX day to protest Obama's world record tax increases ...

??? WTF are you talking about 'world record tax increases'? Lay off the crack, dude.

[cactusjacks1]

That's another thing - this PDF was a slap in the face to tens of thousands of those that have served our country.

And yes, it also applies to literally millions of people who disagree with Obama's radical policies.

I would pay $50.00 to see a Limbaugh/Obama debate on PPV

Limbaugh would absolutely destroy this stuttering fool and he could do it stoned out of his mind on Oxy.

The gov. should do a PPV of Navy snipers taking out 3 teenage black pirates off the coast of Somalia - you know they have footage from many angles, just declassify it - that would set a viewership record & could help retire some of our deficit. No, it's not arrogant, it's reality TV at its finest!!.

[Pinepig]

Could you please find me a more bias and unreliable source? That one is far too trustworthy for me. kthxbye.

Eat a 8===D, Kthxbye.:pimp:

[cactusjacks1]

I seriously doubt any "official" government document that outlines the behavior of extremists with the phrase "historic election". That pretty much labels it as bullshit right there.

If this thing is real, then it is dangerous. Yes, there are extremists out there. But this document does not give police agencies anything of real value to combat extremists.

And this document does very much cover literally millions of people in the US. Pretty much the entire 58 million who voted against Obama. I will say it here and now, I am extremely dissatisfied with the direction this country is going and I think that Obama and Pelosi are out of control and pretty much out of their minds. I am a fully trained soldier and I know how to aim for center of mass. By saying that, does it keyhole me as a "right wing radical" as defined by that document? Yep, pretty much. Am I a radical? Absolutely not. Anything I do to fight against the current administration's policies will be public, legal, and peaceful.

+1 Well said !! For the first time in over 35 years I am going to a protest today - a tea party - they are being held all over the country on TAX day to protest Obama's world record tax increases - the news just showed that Boston has 200,000 attending their's - perhaps a few more "right wing extremists" around than the "black suits" thought.

[Maluco]

here's the "leftwing" report...

http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/leftwing.pdf

[E30 Cabrio]

I seriously doubt any "official" government document that outlines the behavior of extremists with the phrase "historic election". That pretty much labels it as bullshit right there.

If this thing is real, then it is dangerous. Yes, there are extremists out there. But this document does not give police agencies anything of real value to combat extremists.

And this document does very much cover literally millions of people in the US. Pretty much the entire 58 million who voted against Obama. I will say it here and now, I am extremely dissatisfied with the direction this country is going and I think that Obama and Pelosi are out of control and pretty much out of their minds. I am a fully trained soldier and I know how to aim for center of mass. By saying that, does it keyhole me as a "right wing radical" as defined by that document? Yep, pretty much. Am I a radical? Absolutely not. Anything I do to fight against the current administration's policies will be public, legal, and peaceful.

That's another thing - this PDF was a slap in the face to tens of thousands of those that have served our country.

And yes, it also applies to literally millions of people who disagree with Obama's radical policies.

Obama is trying to do to dissenters what he tried to do to Rush Limbaugh, except Limbaugh has a microphone, an audience and doesn't need a teleprompter to kick ass verbally.

Once he challenged Obama to a debate, Obama didn't utter another word about Limbaugh.

I would pay $50.00 to see a Limbaugh/Obama debate on PPV

Obama would never do it because he would get humiliated. He'll just continue to take cheap pot shots at Limbaugh thru his proxies and his friends in the media because he doesn't have the balls or the brains to take on Limbaugh in a debate.

Limbaugh would absolutely destroy this stuttering fool and he could do it stoned out of his mind on Oxy.

[E30 Cabrio]

Could you please find me a more bias and unreliable source? That one is far too trustworthy for me. kthxbye.

The facts blew up your argument, so you attack the source?

That's just weak.

It happened in California. I know this for a fact and anyone with an internet connection and a few minutes can verify this fact.

Again, how would you feel if you, in good faith registered your expensive firearm with the Government only to have them retroactively ban it and demand you turn it over without compensation under the threat of imprisonment?

This happened in California and wasn't an isolated incident either.

Like I said, you can look this up for yourself or remain in denial.

Pelosi wants me to register my firearm?

Fine, as long as there is an irrevocable law that goes along with it stating that the Government cannot ever use this info to threaten or to confiscate my firearm, and that like my car, I may take my loaded firearm out in public with me to exercise my 2nd Amendment rights as afforded me by the US Constitution and the recent SCOTUS ruling.

If not, Pelosi can go fuck her ugly ass self.

There is only one reason she wants firearm registration.

It's not difficult to figure out why.

[Hallen]

I seriously doubt any "official" government document that outlines the behavior of extremists with the phrase "historic election". That pretty much labels it as bullshit right there.

If this thing is real, then it is dangerous. Yes, there are extremists out there. But this document does not give police agencies anything of real value to combat extremists.

And this document does very much cover literally millions of people in the US. Pretty much the entire 58 million who voted against Obama. I will say it here and now, I am extremely dissatisfied with the direction this country is going and I think that Obama and Pelosi are out of control and pretty much out of their minds. I am a fully trained soldier and I know how to aim for center of mass. By saying that, does it keyhole me as a "right wing radical" as defined by that document? Yep, pretty much. Am I a radical? Absolutely not. Anything I do to fight against the current administration's policies will be public, legal, and peaceful.