DHS 9-page Report on Rightwing Extremism

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  • E30 Cabrio
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    From the report. p. 3:
    (U//LES) Rightwing extremists are harnessing this historical election as a recruitment tool.


    Many rightwing extremists are antagonistic toward the new presidential administration and its perceived stance on a range of issues, including immigration and citizenship, the expansion of social programs to minorities, and restrictions on firearms ownership and use.


    Rightwing extremists are increasingly galvanized by these concerns and leverage them as drivers for recruitment.



    From the 2008 election timeframe to the present, rightwing extremists have capitalized on related racial and political prejudices in expanded propaganda campaigns, thereby reaching out to a wider audience of potential sympathizers.



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    So if someone doesn't agree with Obama on immigration, citizenship, affirmative action, gun rights, etc...they are "right-wing" extremists and a threat according to this document.


    The Obama administration is labeling dissenters as "extremists" who are a danger to society.


    Where have we seen this before?

    Oh, I also like the way they throw in the phrase "this historical election"

    Obama never misses a chance to play the race card.


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  • Maluco
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    that was well spoken. I too am only looking at this as the government's actions on its people. I lean both left and right on many a issues. I guess some people just don't see the government's actions and agendas as others do. These types of reports and profiling is what paves the way for enforcement. That particular report was sent to the police. Do you really think the police need more reasons to profile and pull people over?

    When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. - Thomas Jefferson

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  • E30 Cabrio
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    So now Nancy Pelosi wants all guns to be registered.

    What usually precedes gun confiscation?

    Gun registration.

    It's already happened in California.

    Now they're also trying to pass a law in California to limit the number of bullets you can buy, and that you have to fingerprinted when you buy them.

    This isn't really a left vs. right issue, it's a Government taking away the rights of the people issue.

    It just so happens that in this case, the Government is on the Left and they are targeting people on the Right, and the Government is demonizing the people they are targeting by trying to paint them as extremists, or to tie them to extremists.

    If you own a gun and don't approve of Obama as President, you're considered a "right-wing extremist" according to that PDF

    Remember when the Oklahoma City bombing was blamed on "talk radio"?

    I guess it really won't matter to some until the day comes when cars over XX years old are deemed not "green" enough and will be banned.

    It's already starting to happen in California.

    Another thing happening here in California is a plan to ban Plasma TV's over a certain size because they use too much electricity, and to ban Black cars in the future because they use more A/C then lighter colored cars.

    No, I'm not making this up.

    The goals of the Government in that PDF are far more frightening than the groups of people they are targeting.

    Some of our elected officials want to ban Plasma TV's over a certain size, ban Black cars, ban guns, ban cars over 20 years old, limit the number of bullets you can buy, confiscate firearms, place limits on what is considered acceptable speech, giving blanket amnesty to millions of illegals, etc...

    These are all laws that are being considered right now in California and in other parts of the US, some by the US Government itself.

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  • ragged325
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    Originally posted by E30 Cabrio
    I didn't see the words "left-wing" in that PDF

    I still don't believe that PDF to be legit.

    If it is, it is scary what this administration is capable of as they are painting any dissenters as "right-wing extremists/terrorists"
    E30 Cabrio, I've already reported you.

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  • CorvallisBMW
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    Originally posted by Radiocammbodia
    Edit: I like that it is also nine pages long.

    Edited Again: What I took away after reading both reports:

    Right Wing Nutjobs - Trying to recruit ex-soldiers, using the new black president as leverage; are assholes that should cut it out

    Left Wing Nutjobs - Trying to use computers to fuck with corporations and anyone else that goes against their beliefs; are assholes that should cut it out
    QFT. it's a two-sided coin.

    But I don't see this report as being anything 'extreme' or 'threatening'. They're talking about preventing domestic terrorism. Call me crazy, but I don't think that's extreme. The report doesn't talk about squashing dissent or stopping free speech, it talks about the threat posed by extremists who wish to bomb, kill and maim innocent Americans. What's so threatening about that? I'm all for free speech, but the right to free speech stops when your speech becomes or incites violence.

    If Maluco had stumbled upon the left-wing pdf first, I doubt a thread even would have been started.

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  • Collin
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    Originally posted by E30 Cabrio
    I didn't see the words "left-wing" in that PDF
    Originally posted by Radiocammbodia
    Also from your article:

    "In January, the same DHS office released a report titled 'Leftwing extremists likely to increase use of cyber attacks over the coming decade.'"
    From your favorite source ;) The left wing extremist PDF, from your friends at the DHS.



    Edit: I like that it is also nine pages long.

    Edited Again: What I took away after reading both reports:

    Right Wing Nutjobs - Trying to recruit ex-soldiers, using the new black president as leverage; are assholes that should cut it out

    Left Wing Nutjobs - Trying to use computers to fuck with corporations and anyone else that goes against their beliefs; are assholes that should cut it out
    Last edited by Collin; 04-14-2009, 04:28 PM.

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  • Maluco
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    Originally posted by E30 Cabrio
    Holy Shit!

    Tell me that isn't real!

    Is there a .gov web site where this document exists?

    This has to be B.S.

    If it isn't, then this is truly frightening what this administration is planning and/or capable of against anyone who does not agree with it.
    Links to it are all over the internet...

    Originally posted by CorvallisBMW
    Exactly. It's not a right-wing or left-wing attack. It's an attempt to prevent domestic terrorism. There are terrorists on both sides.

    On the right, you have guys like Timothy McVeigh, Ted Kazinski, and all those nutjobs who murder doctors and bomb abortion clinics.

    On the left, you have radical greenies who firebomb Hummer dealerships and burn down ski resorts and subdivisions.

    Both are forms of domestic terrorism, and both should be stopped. For Maluco and E30Cabrio to focus only on the efforts to stop right-wing terrorism and completely ignore the equal attention being paid to left-wing terrorism smacks of their bias and limited cogniscence.
    I'm not trying to point out anything but how radical the report is and what's contained therein.

    Originally posted by ThePotsy
    I didn't see that anywhere in that report.
    I took it from the article I read, haven't read the full report.

    From the report, p.2:
    Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.
    From the report. p. 3:
    (U//LES) Rightwing extremists are harnessing this historical election as a recruitment tool. Many rightwing extremists are antagonistic toward the new presidential administration and its perceived stance on a range of issues, including immigration and citizenship, the expansion of social programs to minorities, and restrictions on firearms ownership and use. Rightwing extremists are increasingly galvanized by these concerns and leverage them as drivers for recruitment. From the 2008 election timeframe to the present, rightwing extremists have capitalized on related racial and political prejudices in expanded propaganda campaigns, thereby reaching out to a wider audience of potential sympathizers.
    (U) Exploiting Economic Downturn
    (U//FOUO) Rightwing extremist chatter on the Internet continues to focus on the economy, the perceived loss of U.S. jobs in the manufacturing and construction sectors, and home foreclosures. Anti-Semitic extremists attribute these losses to a deliberate conspiracy conducted by a cabal of Jewish “financial elites.” These “accusatory” tactics are employed to draw new recruits into rightwing extremist groups and further radicalize those already subscribing to extremist beliefs. DHS/I&A assesses this trend is likely to accelerate if the economy is perceived to worsen.
    From the report, p. 5:
    (U//FOUO) Over the past five years, various rightwing extremists, including militias and white supremacists, have adopted the immigration issue as a call to action, rallying point,
    and recruiting tool. Debates over appropriate immigration levels and enforcement policy generally fall within the realm of protected political speech under the First Amendment, but in some cases, anti-immigration or strident pro-enforcement fervor has been directed against specific groups and has the potential to turn violent.
    And echoing the anti-military bigotry last seen in that disgusting Penn State University training video, there’s this on p. 7:
    (U) Disgruntled Military Veterans
    (U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the capabilities of extremists—including lone wolves or small terrorist cells—to carry out violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today.
    There’s no hackneyed left-wing stereotype of conservatives left behind in this DHS intelligence and analysis assessment. I asked both DHS spokespeople to tell me who, specifically, the report was accusing of “rightwing extremist chatter” and which “antigovernment” groups are being monitored as “extremists.” They say they’ll get back to me.
    In the meantime, be aware of this from the report, p. 8:
    (U//FOUO) DHS/I&A will be working with its state and local partners over the next several months to ascertain with greater regional specificity the rise in rightwing extremist activity in the United States, with a particular emphasis on the political, economic, and social factors that drive rightwing extremist radicalization.

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  • ThePotsy
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    Originally posted by Maluco
    The report warned law enforcement agencies to watch for suspicious individuals who may have bumper stickers for third-party political candidates such as Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin.
    I didn't see that anywhere in that report.

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  • ThePotsy
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    Originally posted by E30 Cabrio
    They're going to label any opposition as "Right-Wing extremism" and paint everyone who opposes "Dear Leader" with the same broad brush and include them in the same group as domestic terrorists, racist groups, militia groups, etc...

    Opposition to Obama will equal "Domestic Terrorism" and the media will gladly comply to spread the propaganda.

    What's next? Rewards for turning in "dissenters"?

    What happened to "Dissent is Patriotic"?

    Or is that only during war time and when a Republican is in the White House?
    Is that seriously what you get out of that PDF?

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  • wildstoats
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    Originally posted by Maluco
    The report warned law enforcement agencies to watch for suspicious individuals who may have bumper stickers for third-party political candidates such as Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin.
    Is anyone even a little bit surprised at that bit? Oh? what was that? You aren't going to play by the rules we (the two ruling parties) have laid out for you? Terrorist! Terrorist! Get him! Sleep walking into 1984 and the general populace just eats it up. People should be pissed, we're all being fleeced by Goldman Sachs and Co. and the politicians are paving the way for it. Hooray America.

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  • wildstoats
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    Originally posted by E30 Cabrio
    What's next? Rewards for turning in "dissenters"?

    What happened to "Dissent is Patriotic"?
    Getting closer every day matey: http://www.dhs.gov/xinfoshare/reportincidents/


    Being Patriotic means doing what the government says ... you obviously didn't get the memo, I'll have a couple of gentlemen in black suits deliver it to you, what's your address again?
    Last edited by wildstoats; 04-14-2009, 03:06 PM.

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  • E30 Cabrio
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    Originally posted by CorvallisBMW
    Exactly. It's not a right-wing or left-wing attack. It's an attempt to prevent domestic terrorism. There are terrorists on both sides.

    On the right, you have guys like Timothy McVeigh, Ted Kazinski, and all those nutjobs who murder doctors and bomb abortion clinics.

    On the left, you have radical greenies who firebomb Hummer dealerships and burn down ski resorts and subdivisions.

    Both are forms of domestic terrorism, and both should be stopped. For Maluco and E30Cabrio to focus only on the efforts to stop right-wing terrorism and completely ignore the equal attention being paid to left-wing terrorism smacks of their bias and limited cogniscence.
    I didn't see the words "left-wing" in that PDF

    I still don't believe that PDF to be legit.

    If it is, it is scary what this administration is capable of as they are painting any dissenters as "right-wing extremists/terrorists"

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  • CorvallisBMW
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    Originally posted by Radiocammbodia
    Not that I think it's a good idea that we target people for their core values and beliefs, but if there are more Timothy McVeighs out there I want the fucking government to be doing something about it.

    Also from your article:

    "In January, the same DHS office released a report titled 'Leftwing extremists likely to increase use of cyber attacks over the coming decade.'"
    Exactly. It's not a right-wing or left-wing attack. It's an attempt to prevent domestic terrorism. There are terrorists on both sides.

    On the right, you have guys like Timothy McVeigh, Ted Kazinski, and all those nutjobs who murder doctors and bomb abortion clinics.

    On the left, you have radical greenies who firebomb Hummer dealerships and burn down ski resorts and subdivisions.

    Both are forms of domestic terrorism, and both should be stopped. For Maluco and E30Cabrio to focus only on the efforts to stop right-wing terrorism and completely ignore the equal attention being paid to left-wing terrorism smacks of their bias and limited cogniscence.

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  • E30 Cabrio
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    Originally posted by Maluco
    Holy Shit!

    Tell me that isn't real!

    Is there a .gov web site where this document exists?

    This has to be B.S.

    If it isn't, then this is truly frightening what this administration is planning and/or capable of against anyone who does not agree with it.

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  • E30 Cabrio
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    They're going to label any opposition as "Right-Wing extremism" and paint everyone who opposes "Dear Leader" with the same broad brush and include them in the same group as domestic terrorists, racist groups, militia groups, etc...

    Opposition to Obama will equal "Domestic Terrorism" and the media will gladly comply to spread the propaganda.

    What's next? Rewards for turning in "dissenters"?

    What happened to "Dissent is Patriotic"?

    Or is that only during war time and when a Republican is in the White House?

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