New car shopping in 2022 - GR86

[Slybeanx]

Yeah a new M2 weighs 3,800lbs and bmw fanboys still call it a modern E30. The fat is inevitable now that EVs are in vogue. To think BMW's smallest coupe weighs more than my 5 series wagon

That's as much as my 1984 K10 lmfao. At least my K10 has an LS and a 5 speed xD

[varg]

Yeah at least in the previous generations (2020) the weight is pretty much exactly the same as an M4. Heavier than the E39 courtesy of a dozen airbags, a bunch of sheet metal adding stiffness and better crumple zones, big wheels and tires, a bunch of interior electronics and sound deadening. Why it isn't any lighter than a 4-series is probably down to less time and money being spent optimizing the design for weight since it's a ~$10,000 cheaper car.

[MrBurgundy]

Dimensionally it's bigger than an e92 as well! Hardly the new e30 M3 with its size and weight.

It's 1 inch wider but shorter and not as tall.. marginally.

Yeah it does weight quite a bit. I've seen a couple non M 2s and they look quite small.. if only it's weight reflected that. I don't get how it weighs the same as the next series up

My e39 weighs 500 lbs less LOL

[moatilliatta]

It's a glorified Toyota Corolla, what do you expect?

Not the Mini Cooper 2er…

[E30 Wagen]

The size and weight is absurd, but I'm also really disappointed that there's no more traditional instrument cluster. I'm so sick of screens.

[lukeADE335i]

Dimensionally it's bigger than an e92 as well! Hardly the new e30 M3 with its size and weight.

[varg]

The thing that gets under my skin is the additional weight and size of the new 2er. STOP GETTING FAT BWM!

Yeah a new M2 weighs 3,800lbs and bmw fanboys still call it a modern E30. The fat is inevitable now that EVs are in vogue. To think BMW's smallest coupe weighs more than my 5 series wagon

[Jordan]

The thing that gets under my skin is the additional weight and size of the new 2er. STOP GETTING FAT BWM!

It's a glorified Toyota Corolla, what do you expect?

[moatilliatta]

The thing that gets under my skin is the additional weight and size of the new 2er. STOP GETTING FAT BWM!

[varg]

It's butt-ugly. It looks like they mixed the last gen M2 with an E30 M3, late '90s Galant VR4 and threw away all of the good parts. If you're going to do a blocky looking car with flares how about a little less increasing the thickness slider and a little more Lancia 037.

[MrBurgundy]

Scion TC vibes.

[Slybeanx]

I really don't think it looks that bad.

Scion TC vibes.

[Slybeanx]

If we were all smarter people, we'd just be driving one of those. The new 86/BRZ looks like a much better polished packaged than the previous gen.

I really like them, and in person they look a bit more premium for sure.

Thanks!

I didn't even consider BMW with what they are currently offering. The M2 was/is one of my favorite cars they've produced and now I am just disgusted with the current offerings.

[DEV0 E30]

I love the Vision Concept. Would buy.

Their Ioniq 5 and 6 are both cool, but this is the beez kneez.

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[lukeADE335i]

It’s a pity Hyundai haven’t continued development of their Vision 74 concept. The ionic 6 is meant to be based on it, but the styling went backwards. It’s a much better retro attempt than the M2. The continual references by BMW to the e30 M3 in its marketing are