Obama: 6 month report card

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  • z31maniac
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    Originally posted by Need4Speed1299
    Im scared of whats next.
    Tax hikes kiddies.

    Remember the promise that "Taxes for those families making under $250k a year won't raise a single dime under my plan"

    Geithner dispelled that yesterday. I suspect tax increases are coming soon as well as the White House using a budget trick to ram health care through.


    As far as healthcare, look at the latest story to come out of England. They are going to nix pain injections for those who suffer from severe chronic back pain because it will save $34 million pounds a year.

    Gotta love rationed care.......

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  • mrsleeve
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    Like the other dude said naturalizing them I am all for that requires them to learn Engrish, and about the History of the country and how the political system works along with US laws. This process helps to integrate them into the US culture and society much better. Amnesty just gives all the illegals the same thing with out having to go though the classes and take the tests and really truly become US citizens. = Bull shit.


    Toy your other post, the 14th amendment was addressing the slave and US citizen issues making freed slaves (that chose to stay here) automatically US citizens. You still have to be a natural born citizen to be eligible for the office of POTUS.



    Originally posted by wildstoats
    Sorry for going backwards in the discussion here but I was under the impression that naturalizing illegal immigrants would be in all of our best interests. If for no other reason than making them pay taxes. Now granted there would be a proportion that would still be on government assistance but I see that as a separate issue that needs addressed regardless of the status of the immigrants. Now if "amnesty" in the sense your using it refers to something other than citizenship then I would be interested to find out what this plan entails but otherwise I feel that it's a better plan than building a modern version of the Berlin Wall at the southern border.

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  • Need4Speed1299
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    Im scared of whats next.

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  • che13
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    This thread is funny - half truths and bickering from both sides all over the place - I thought election season was over - feels like I am in the middle of an election commercial

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  • Alkasquawlik
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    No responses from the Obama crowd?
    Are you guys finally seeing the light?

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  • gwb72tii
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    all of the debt/defecit is certainly not an issue of too few tax dollars being collected by the feds, it a spending problem pure and simple. you want a better economy, more jobs, higher wages? leave the dollars in the economy, not washington dc.

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  • Alkasquawlik
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    Originally posted by kronus
    But if the government cuts spending it won't be able to produce guns and fighter planes to send to Israel :(
    They already cut funding for the F22, they're cutting funding in all the wrong places.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25210.html





    Originally posted by mrsleeve
    defense spending is ONE OF THE FEW THINGS that the FED is supposed to do.

    Like I keep saying this dude is gonna make Jimmy Peanut ( Carter for all you kiddies out there) look like a fucking Genius and a great president.

    Agreed on both points. We just keep digging ourselves deeper and deeper.

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  • mrsleeve
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    How bout cutting a much of the entitlements??? That and defense spending is ONE OF THE FEW THINGS that the FED is supposed to do. I am not going to into the whole Israel thing???


    Like I keep saying this dude is gonna make Jimmy Peanut ( Carter for all you kiddies out there) look like a fucking Genius and a great president.

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  • kronus
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    Originally posted by Alkasquawlik
    Lower taxes and CUT spending?
    It really is a no brainer..
    But if the government cuts spending it won't be able to produce guns and fighter planes to send to Israel :(

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  • Alkasquawlik
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    Originally posted by kronus
    Not an "Obama lover", but do you have a better idea?
    Lower taxes and CUT spending?
    It really is a no brainer..

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  • kronus
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    Originally posted by Alkasquawlik
    I really would love to hear the Obama lovers defend this one.
    Not an "Obama lover", but do you have a better idea?

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  • Alkasquawlik
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    Originally posted by scabzzzz
    This is probably the most level headed response I've ever heard.
    I made it into your sig. I'm honored. btw, you still owe me my $10 waffleswaffleswaffleswafflesy




    I cannot believe how anyone has any respect for Obama anymore. He continually lies to the American public's face time and time again.

    What happened to Obama's promise that anyone making less than $250,000 a year wouldn't see a tax increase?

    To get the economy back on track, will President Barack Obama have to break his pledge not to raise taxes on 95 percent of Americans? In a “This Week” exclusive, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner told me, "We’re going to have to do what’s necessary.”
    http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009...dle-class.html

    His pledge to never raise taxes is in the link below:


    I really would love to hear the Obama lovers defend this one.

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  • scabzzzz
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    Originally posted by profbooty
    If people truly wanted "change" they would vote 3rd party instead of running back and forth between the same 2 parties acting all surprised when the same tired solutions don't work.
    This is probably the most level headed response I've ever heard.

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  • Pinepig
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    Originally posted by Aptyp
    I am usually indifferent to all this politics, but I just came home from Milwaukee/Chicago trip and I've come to a conclusion on my political dilemma. Wisconsin and Illinois are quite possibly the most democratically ran states, and I absolutely hated what I saw.

    California has them both beat easily.

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  • Pinepig
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    Originally posted by profbooty
    If people truly wanted "change" they would vote 3rd party instead of running back and forth between the same 2 parties acting all surprised when the same tired solutions don't work.
    This would entail folks stop sucking the party line dick.

    I have hope ( god I hate that fucking word now ) that in 2010 all of them up for reelection will be out on their asses.

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