Obama: 6 month report card

[Turf1600]

In the name of a r3v political debate, why don't you list them?

Even Leaf can just post that Bush is a fuckup, but without evidence, it's just more talk.

I'm going to throw it back at you.

Did anything negative occur in our country during the past 5 years?

[metalix1021]

Turf, I don't understand how you can be a libertarian and still vote for Obama. From an economic standpoint, he is as far from a libertarian as possible. The guy wants to expand the government to proportions I am definitely NOT comfortable with.

I don't understand how people can think universal healthcare is a good idea. Name one government program that runs efficiently. I can't. So why would this program be any different?

[Leaf]

examples?

[metalix1021]

Yeah, you laugh but don't offer anything but your opinion.

:up:

[mrsleeve]

How old are you really, have you even had a job yet, or are you 13 trying to pretend you know anything about whats going on.

[kishg]

too early to give verdict yet. dubya had 8 years to fuck it up and now you expect that to be fixed in 6 months? be realistic. leaving aside the healthcare debate, the economy is on it's way back up (at least from a financial market standpoint which is generally a bellweather). by the time electio 2010 rolls around, obama will be in good shape i predict. now the dems will have a tough time at mid terms though which is probably a good thing. balance of power is always best.

[gwb72tii]

I voted for Obama. I'm a libertarian. He wasn't my first choice but he's not too bad. I appreciate his effort but I think a smaller government is the answer to most questions. 6 months is too soon to tell. I like that there's opposition though. It's a sign that progress is being made. Whether or not it's positive progress is yet to be determined - but it's progress none the less. IMO Bush was a lame duck and McCain would have followed suit.

GTFO
how can you call yourself a libertarian and vote for the most liberal member of the senate? now you're getting rammed and it's a surprise?
its like saying its a shock blunt likes head

[mrsleeve]

the economy is on it's way back up (at least from a financial market standpoint which is generally a bellweather). by the time electio 2010 rolls around, obama will be in good shape i predict. now the dems will have a tough time at mid terms though which is probably a good thing. balance of power is always best.

We are in a calm before the shit storm economically man, right now we are still shedding jobs by the hundreds of thousands every month, We have people that are starting to fall off all the extended unemployment benefits and living on what little credit the have. When all th rest of the mass lay offs of the past 10 months fall off all the extended benefits we are gonna see a huge world of hurt as these people default on everything from their CC to the prime (good stable responsible) Mortgages its going to torpedo the markets like we have never seen. Just look at the patten of the great depression, The very bottom of the markets did not come till quite some time after 10/29/1929, just for these very reasons, but then rather than Unemployment they were living on what they have saved. Oh and yo can thank the Dems for the housing bubble than you Dodd and Frank, "W" didnt help matters at all by letting sitting by the way side and letting many of the constraints on nearly all industry become lax and literally give them tax breaks to ship jobs over seas .


I do agree with you 100% about a balance of power being best.

[TheEtaUnderdog]

liberals always cry about bush and his expensive war. except, obama stuck by bush's schedule for that war, and has actually spent more on bailouts and such than bush has spent... they all suck, we need to stop thinking ONE MAN runs our country. he doesn't. he represents it. :hitler: <---- he ran a country

[Turf1600]

GTFO
how can you call yourself a libertarian and vote for the most liberal member of the senate? now you're getting rammed and it's a surprise?
its like saying its a shock blunt likes head

I'm never surprised. Obviously being a libertarian means neither sides appeal to me. The right is influenced by faith and tries to impose on our personal lives - the left may not have the best grasp on economics and supports big govt - which I generally dislike. Since I'm only really given two options I have to choose which of these two ideals I'm going to give up with my vote. I personally wanted to see more liberals in the supreme court because that's what matters most to me. It's also worth noting that I'm an atheist and I very much dislike faith based legislation. Obama has always spoken kindly towards non-believers and I appreciate that. The right won't admit they exist. I feel like my decision was most in line with my principles. You may disagree, but that's your right.

[TheEtaUnderdog]

I'm never surprised. Obviously being a libertarian means neither sides appeal to me. The right is influenced by faith and tries to impose on our personal lives - the left may not have the best grasp on economics and supports big govt - which I generally dislike. Since I'm only really given two options I have to choose which of these two ideals I'm going to give up with my vote. I personally wanted to see more liberals in the supreme court because that's what matters most to me. It's also worth noting that I'm an atheist and I very much dislike faith based legislation. Obama has always spoken kindly towards non-believers and I appreciate that. The right won't admit they exist. I feel like my decision was most in line with my principles. You may disagree, but that's your right.

wait....

you voted on a government official based on his faith, because you dont want a governemnt based on faith?

[Turf1600]

wait....

you voted on a government official based on his faith, because you dont want a governemnt based on faith?

How did you gather that? I thought I made it clear - I voted for the person who's principles were most in line with my own.

[Alkasquawlik]

You just proved my point about you being a troll with nothing substantial to contribute.

I'm going to throw it back at you.

Did anything negative occur in our country during the past 5 years?

There were obviously rough patches during his presidency, but "negative" is a relative term depending on your beliefs and opinions.

Off the top of my head, some things that may be considered mistakes by Bush are: the Iraq War, Patriot Act, No Child Left Behind, ignoring health care, etc. I'm sure there are more things that can be brought up in debate.

[gwb72tii]

How did you gather that? I thought I made it clear - I voted for the person who's principles were most in line with my own.

that would make you a liberal, not a libertarian

[Turf1600]

that would make you a liberal, not a libertarian

Sure, Socially. But I'm a fiscal conservative. Do you know what a libertarian is? Did you read what I wrote about having to make a sacrifice on one side or the other?