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  • Cobra Jet
    Wrencher
    • Apr 2008
    • 278

    #1

    Wow - SCCA Ken Payson wreck

    Does anyone know any more about this recent wreck (this month) that occured at the John Stim Mem LRP National Group 5 Race?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlHfG...layer_embedded


    Really bad wreck on Lap 23. Based on what I have heard, the Lotus apparently spun before the impact (which explains why it's headed in the direction seen on the vid).

    Any other facts or knowledge of this race? Was there any casualties?
  • kishg
    R3VLimited
    • Sep 2006
    • 2624

    #2
    no casualties. both drivers ok from what i heard. looks like the SM car did not see the local yellow and was in hot pursuit of the lead car when he came upon the stationary lotus.
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    • Cobra Jet
      Wrencher
      • Apr 2008
      • 278

      #3
      I can't understand how that driver in the Miata did not see the Lotus dead ahead. I mean, just from looking at the vid, one would think that the Miata driver could have seen that vehicle plain as day, especially if looking ahead of where one is going... .. no? Maybe he was just "in the zone"...

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      • kishg
        R3VLimited
        • Sep 2006
        • 2624

        #4
        hard to say from the vid. gotta remember he was behind the other SM entering no-name.. and an SM is a pretty low car.. looks like he tried to pass the lead car right there.
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        • Hellabad
          E30 Modder
          • Aug 2008
          • 807

          #5
          Originally posted by Cobra Jet
          I can't understand how that driver in the Miata did not see the Lotus dead ahead.
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          • n2bimmer
            Grease Monkey
            • Dec 2008
            • 359

            #6
            OMG, that is crazy.

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            • Jean
              Moderator
              • Aug 2006
              • 18228

              #7
              Ouch...good thing both drivers walked away from what it sounds like
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              • Scotaku
                Grease Monkey
                • Jun 2007
                • 365

                #8
                Originally posted by Cobra Jet
                I can't understand how that driver in the Miata did not see the Lotus dead ahead. I mean, just from looking at the vid, one would think that the Miata driver could have seen that vehicle plain as day, especially if looking ahead of where one is going... .. no? Maybe he was just "in the zone"...
                If he was in the zone, he'd have heeded the waving yellow flags. Go watch the video again... they're hard to miss.
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                • e30-RTN
                  E30 Addict
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 461

                  #9
                  good eye...kinda lazy on the flag waving though.
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                  • Alkasquawlik
                    R3V Elite
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 4557

                    #10
                    holy shit

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                    • Goya20
                      Grease Monkey
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 325

                      #11
                      dammmmnnn fuuucckkkk
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                      • whysimon
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 659

                        #12
                        I wonder what the last thing was on their minds?

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                        • noke325
                          Advanced Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 103

                          #13
                          First thing ANY instructor will tell you is to keep your eyes "up". Meaning, look ahead through the car in front of you if you have to and ALWAYS check the corner workers stations for flags.

                          That being said, shit happens on the track. We weren't in the drivers seat. Even the best drivers srew up from time to time. I'd bet that after 22 laps he was probably getting a little worn down too.

                          Glad to hear neither were hurt. That looked like hell.

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                          • JGood
                            R3V OG
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 7959

                            #14
                            That's terrible, glad to hear he's OK.

                            He never had a chance to see him. He went wide through the corner and went for the pass when the leader lifted for the yellow. He didn't get view of the Lotus until he was 2 car lengths away. Yeah, he should have seen the yellow, but when you're 6" off the leaders bumper, shit happens.
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                            • kishg
                              R3VLimited
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 2624

                              #15
                              yup. racing incident. easy to be an armchair expert but it's different when your in the situation.
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