Man carrying assault weapon attends Obama protest

[z31maniac]

It always amazes me how folks like you automatically assume that somebody that stands for freedom is a far right winger ( or a redneck you racist fuck ). Does that mean that folks against freedom are left wing?

I'm a hard core libertarian, individual responsibility ( and the freedom that it brings ) is king.

To be fair, he is a bigot.

[Joey Link]

I'm not going to read it.

This does not surprise me. Ignorance truly is bliss, isn't it? Easier to ignore all the facts and theory, substitute your own, stick your fingers in your ears, and yell la-la-la-la-la.

[Erik]

In refernece to your previous post about accountability, if you own a gun and it's used illegally, even if it's by someone else, you bet your ass the cops are gonna have a nice chat with you about it. Someone stole you gun and you didn't report it? Fat chance you get out with that line.

There is a good amount of accountability already in the US system. Some states are more attenative about records and registration and licenscing, some are less. We don't live in the Wild West, with gunfights at noon.

Personally, I'm happy with gun laws as they sit (No Brady Bill) but it could be more consciencious of the mental health history (medications, hospitilizations, etc) of the purchaser.

Oh, and for the sarcasm:
http://www.gun-forums.com/40-reasons...06.html?t=1406

I absolutely agree with the fact that they definitely need to do much better background checks for people who ate purchasing firearms.

[jrhaile]

Just an FYI, even Bernie Goldberg thinks this guy is an idiot and thinks carrying weapons to townhalls is unnecessary.

[Joey Link]

I agree it wasn't a smart thing to do, and it isn't something I would do. However, I do support his right to do it 100%. Just because something isn't smart or something we ourselves wouldn't do doesn't mean we ought to create yet another law to prohibit it.

[CorvallisBMW]

I bet your asshole is as wide as your mouth for the amount of shit that flows out of both of them!

sticks and stones, bud.

I agree it wasn't a smart thing to do, and it isn't something I would do. However, I do support his right to do it 100%. Just because something isn't smart or something we ourselves wouldn't do doesn't mean we ought to create yet another law to prohibit it.

True. But just because you can do something doesn't mean you should or that it's a good idea.

The guy is just an attention whore, period. He brought an AR-15 to a town hall on health care. There were no discussions about gun rights of any sort, and he just did it to stir the pot and get some media spotlight for his 5 minutes of fame.

Now a lot of you will say 'he did it because they're trying to take our guns away', or something like that. No, they are not. No one in congress or the current administration has even hinted at, let alone proposed, any new gun laws whatsoever. If you believe they are trying to restrict ownership further, you need to stop listening to your gun buddies and the NRA and check the facts.

It's all just fear-mongering. But hell, the gun manufacturers sure love it.

[Pinepig]

Now a lot of you will say 'he did it because they're trying to take our guns away', or something like that. No, they are not. No one in congress or the current administration has even hinted at, let alone proposed, any new gun laws whatsoever. If you believe they are trying to restrict ownership further, you need to stop listening to your gun buddies and the NRA and check the facts.

Dude you need to quit smoking crack and get your " facts " straight.

"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, I would have done it." Diane Fienstien ( you know who she is right? )

H.R. 45, http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show

Until you educate yourself on the gun issue why don't you just STFU and pay attention, you just might learn something.

[Joey Link]

sticks and stones, bud.



True. But just because you can do something doesn't mean you should or that it's a good idea.

That's what I just said :D

The guy is just an attention whore, period. He brought an AR-15 to a town hall on health care. There were no discussions about gun rights of any sort, and he just did it to stir the pot and get some media spotlight for his 5 minutes of fame.

Yeah, it was a dumb move.

Now a lot of you will say 'he did it because they're trying to take our guns away', or something like that. No, they are not. No one in congress or the current administration has even hinted at, let alone proposed, any new gun laws whatsoever. If you believe they are trying to restrict ownership further, you need to stop listening to your gun buddies and the NRA and check the facts.

It's all just fear-mongering. But hell, the gun manufacturers sure love it.

Tell me, when was it you last searched for gun control legislation? Your statement above is factually incorrect, because every single session new gun control legislation is proposed. Go take a look for yourself, and take special care to note HR45 and S.1317. Most of it dies before it gets off the ground due to organizations such as the NRA and Gun Owners of America (thank god), yet it's still proposed. Without those two organizations the 2nd Amendment would be in shreds. If you believe they are NOT trying to restrict firearm ownership further you need to check your facts.

I have not seem Obama attempt to further restrict our gun ownership, but I also believe he has many more pressing issues to deal with right now. I do understand why people think he will make an attempt at some point in his presidency. The only way one can hope to predict the future is to examine the past, and he has a solid record of supporting extremely strict gun control. If he hopes to make his move he better do it quickly, cause the Democrats are in for an upset in the next congressional election.

[Joey Link]

Until you educate yourself on the gun issue why don't you just STFU and pay attention, you just might learn something.

It's difficult for a liberal to push past their emotions and contradict what 'feels right', despite facts or merit.

[Hallen]

Just reading the dictionary

–noun 1.Usually, arms. weapons, esp. firearms.

So technically you have a right to weapons there for you could all just go and buy some rocket lunches, or grinade's what ever the hell you want.

Yes, technically. But there are laws that prohibit the owning of weapons that are primarily for war fighting and mass destruction. A firearm, which is typically meant when you use the phrase "right to bear arms", is seen more as a tool than a weapon.

And here's the thing that most people who argue against firearms forget: There are bad people in the world. It is a fact. There is always somebody who is willing to take advantage of others. They'll use whatever weapon that is available to them whether it is greater numbers, rocks, clubs, crow bars, or fear and intimidation. Guns don't make it any worse.

If you really could remove all the guns from the world, and keep people from making spears and swords and bows, you would still have criminals, murders, beatings, and theft. And you would most likely have a whole lot more tyrants in the world than there are now. People really are the problem here, not the tools used. You're just as dead if you are beat to death with a club as you are if you are shot.

[Joey Link]

I'd agree with the laws regarding mass destruction but not war fighting, that is the true intent and purpose of the 2nd amendment.

The rest of your post is spot on ;)

[retardotyler]

they just getting rid of them period?

[Pinepig]

who fucking cares. there's no legitimate reason to walk around with an ar15 on your shoulder anyway. go to a gun range.

Political speech, which makes it a first amendment issue also.

[Hallen]

I'd agree with the laws regarding mass destruction but not war fighting, that is the true intent and purpose of the 2nd amendment.

The rest of your post is spot on ;)

Well, yes. But in reference to weapons like anti-tank shoulder fired rockets, hand grenades, and artillery, that is what I meant by war fighting weapons. These are things that the framers of the constitution couldn't possibly know about because they didn't exist. Those weapons sole purpose is war fighting. A gun is a multi-purpose tool. :)

[Farbin Kaiber]

^^^ Unless you are hunting a grizzly hopped up on coke and PCP. Then, a grenade launcher would be quite handy.