The Porsche thread.

[Ryan...]

I remember in the early to mid '00's when middies ('74-'77) were regarded as the garbage entry-level 911, and you could buy them all day for under $10K. People were more interested in the long nose early cars, or the 993s. Truthfully, they weren't that great if they still had thermal reactors, leaky mag cases with pulled head studs, and poo-brown paint that was popular in the '70's.

For reference, SCs were $12K, and Carreras were about $20K. 964s were also about $20K, just a bit more for RS Americas. 993 was about $35K. 993TT were $70K, and so were the real Carrera RS (if you could find one).

The popular saying back then, which lasted for years but no longer applies, is that every decent older air-cooled 911 was a $20K car, whether you bought a perfect one, or had to pay to get a cheap one there.

It's like talking to our fathers/uncles when they talk about missing out on buying pristine muscle cars for 1/16th of what they're worth today. We just shake our heads, but here we went and all missed the opportunity with cars like the 911, e30 M3, etc...

[Nader393]

To think that I could have gotten a '77 911 for about $1500 more than I paid for my 996 1.5 years ago makes me cry a little bit. Almost immediately after I bought my 996 the market for air cooled 911s shot through the roof, and the 996 market when precisely nowhere.

I remember in the early to mid '00's when middies ('74-'77) were regarded as the garbage entry-level 911, and you could buy them all day for under $10K. People were more interested in the long nose early cars, or the 993s. Truthfully, they weren't that great if they still had thermal reactors, leaky mag cases with pulled head studs, and poo-brown paint that was popular in the '70's.

For reference, SCs were $12K, and Carreras were about $20K. 964s were also about $20K, just a bit more for RS Americas. 993 was about $35K. 993TT were $70K, and so were the real Carrera RS (if you could find one).

The popular saying back then, which lasted for years but no longer applies, is that every decent older air-cooled 911 was a $20K car, whether you bought a perfect one, or had to pay to get a cheap one there.

[Ryan...]

I'd start on the Rennlist forums. Cars move often over there and are nearly all enthusiast owned, even the 100K+ examples. That said, it seems like prices are starting to level off and even come down from what they were 12-18 months ago.

To think that I could have gotten a '77 911 for about $1500 more than I paid for my 996 1.5 years ago makes me cry a little bit. Almost immediately after I bought my 996 the market for air cooled 911s shot through the roof, and the 996 market when precisely nowhere.

[Joe G]

^ he's going to be hard pressed to find a 993 for under $55k. At least one in decent shape with less than 130K on the clock.

I'd start on the Rennlist forums. Cars move often over there and are nearly all enthusiast owned, even the 100K+ examples. That said, it seems like prices are starting to level off and even come down from what they were 12-18 months ago.

[willworkfore30s]

I hope you guys don't mind me posting this here but my brother is in the market for a 993. It can be a project if the price is right. He is also considering a 996 or 997 but they'd have to be priced very right. He is looking to stay under $40K for a 993 if he can but will look at anything under $55k. If anyone has a lead on one, I'd really appreciate you sending it my way!

[LateFan]

Piech completely out of Volkswagen and Porsche. Sells his stock to rival family members, resigns.

"In April 2015, he resigned from all posts at VW Group after losing a power struggle with his former protege, then-CEO Martin Winterkorn. Over time, relations with his extended family and his cousin, fellow VW director Wolfgang Porsche, worsened and eventually he decided to liquidate his stake. This contractually meant a sale to his rival family members, who have a right of first refusal whenever another relative wants out."

http://europe.autonews.com/article/20171109/ANE/171109780/piech-will-finally-quit-the-company-he-cherished-above-family

[LateFan]

The way a 914 is supposed to look....and sound....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4jGQs35bEw

[flyboyx]

Oh, I came back just to post that! Good work!

Good noise on overrun.

Can we not embed youtube videos anymore?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=30&v=9tGyYrUoa9E

EDIT - apparently not.

i just tried to put it up for you and i can't get it to work either.

[Ryan...]

Oh, I came back just to post that! Good work!

Good noise on overrun.

Can we not embed youtube videos anymore?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=30&v=9tGyYrUoa9E

EDIT - apparently not.

[LateFan]

Oh, I came back just to post that! Good work!

Good noise on overrun.

Can we not embed youtube videos anymore?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=30&v=9tGyYrUoa9E

EDIT - apparently not.

[LJ851]

That new Singer engine...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tGyYrUoa9E

EDIT: Sorry, my first link was bad. All fixed now.

[LateFan]

Stubby little hillclimb hotrod - the 909 Bergspyder

https://petrolicious.com/articles/exotic-toxic-and-intense-the-porsche-909-bergspyder

826 lbs
275hp F1-based flat 8
0-60 2.4 sec.

I bet it sounded good.

[DaWildBeast]

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[Julien]

Looking for the extended version of this video that also featured a white 911.. anyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KOx2hTipJM

[Echo30V]

My 997.2 is an absolute joy to drive. It's like the "Mouse Trap" ride at the amusement park...you know, the one where your about 1,000 feet above the ground, in a small tight little chassis, rolling on a slight downhill with some speed, going straight to the edge of the earth about to plunge into the cotton candy vendor below, when all of a sudden the car turns in a violently nimble jerk and you're on to your next flirtation with death. Oh, and you love every second of the rides--on rails. That's how my 997.2 rides. I love it.