The Proletariat were the average working people,( who had no car at all, or if lucky, has a lada, or moskvitch,) the soviet leaders (who drove the ZIL's) got greedy, took all the money, they made all the regular people have nothing, they nolonger provided anything for the citizens, that is why the USSR collapsed. In a socialism or communist system, the govn't must have the support of the people, they get the support by providing them what they need to survive, ( food, shelter, jobs, social services ( like health care, or free college))
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Do you not understand, that is why socialism/communism CANNOT work. People are greedy by nature, it's a part of us, deny it all you want, but everyone is greedy.
People will not take to it, especially since they've had a taste of capitalism before.
I mean, you're advocating a bloody revolution. This is the 21st century, you must be out of your mind.
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Originally posted by JamesE30Comment
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You are probably right, socialism is a hard sell, in a rich capitalist country, but socialism is the right way to go regardless. If you disagree that fine,Comment
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NO ITS A HARD SELL TO ANYONE WHO LOVES FREEDOM
Yeah this why
Stalin Killed 30 million of his own country men
Chairman Moa Killed 50-70million of his own people
Pot 40 million
Ill is still starving millions
SO thats what you want huh, and I bet you bitch about bush like he is HitlerThe American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de TocquevilleOriginally posted by Fusion
The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
William Pitt-Comment
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No thats not what i want, if a socialist state has to resort to killing its countrymen, it is not being administered correcly, if the the govn't provides everything a person needs, and they grew up living in a probably run socialist system, they will not be greedy, they will be happy and content with what they have. Stalin didnt provide for his people, he instead made the mistake of killing htem ,and making the average soviet citizen live in fear, unstead of helping his people. the others did the same thing.Last edited by ALYKZANDYR; 10-22-2009, 05:37 PM.Comment
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I think everyone deserves an even break, a chance to start on the same level, but you can't keep people from being successful, and bettering their lot in life. Treating people fairly, having a just legal system. That's what important, not rationing food, homes, cars, etc. for no other reason that "because we are all equal" when that's not the case.'89 325i track sloot
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when i said get rid of the greedy people, that didnt mean killing them, that ment providing them what everything they needed to live and be happy people. If you do that and do it well for everyone, their likelyhood of being greedy is greatly lowered.Comment
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Ha, "happy and content"
Any of us should be happy and content with a car that runs reliably and gets us to where we want to go. But we want better wheels, better tires, more power, better paint, etc. Few people are happy and content without any possibility of more or less.'89 325i track sloot
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I am "happy and content" with my E30, but the fact that I want an E46 M3/E39 M5 when I get out of school is motivation enough for me to bust my ass in school and get a good job once I'm out.
Fuck the people that are lazy and are bummin' it in community colleges 4 years after graduating high school.
They don't deserve the same things as me.
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Originally posted by JamesE30Comment
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HOLY SHIT
You have been saying all alone we need to have our own Bolshevik revolution, and "get rid of all the greedy people"
you know what fuck it, I dont have time to wright out every contradiction you have made in that 1 paragraph, nor do I have the time to point out all the ways you are dead fuckign wrong.
Go out and get a fucking job and EARN A LIVING, PROVIDE for YOURSELF like the rest of us, Rather than live on my tax dollars.The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de TocquevilleOriginally posted by Fusion
The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
William Pitt-Comment
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Well thats how it is in america, but over generations we were schooled into that being the norm. It works the other way too, in a socialist state, over genarations, you can get the people to be happy and content, in much the same way. Make sure everyone has waht they need, liek a guareenteed job, when they are done with highschool, and free col;ege for everyone. Yes the taxes will be very high, but sense the govn't provdes rations you everything you need to live, gives you free shelter, what is left after taxes, you can save. Sence all your bills are paid for with your taxes.Comment
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It won't work.
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Originally posted by JamesE30Comment
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Have you not been payiny attention by whay im saying, you have the revoultion to GET RID OF THE CORPORATIONS AND TAKE CONTROL OF THE COUNTRY. THEN, YOU OVER GENERATIONS THEY PEOPLE ARE NO LONGER GREEDY, BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTIGN WHAT THEY NEED AND WANT FROM THE GOVN'T. The only people need be killed are the people who support the corperations.Comment
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WOW JUST FUCKING WOW. And people like HIM VOTE
Dumb fuck
thats why people came here in the 1st palce, to make a life for them selves and be able to better their living standardsThe American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de TocquevilleOriginally posted by Fusion
The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
William Pitt-Comment
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