Shit hits the fan in Fort Hood, Texas. 50 casualties.

[Pinepig]

I don't seem to remember seeing on the news that this was done out of religious martyrdom but more as a suicide and vengeance for being persecuted.

I can see how the news could not draw the conclusion that a guy running around shooting folks screaming " allah akbar " would not have anything to do with a religious nutbag.

[Pinepig]

what I find odd is that he has been recorded as saying extreme remarks by fellow officers, and nothing happened. Here was a man who, in uniform, stated to others in uniform that he thought it acceptable for people to slaughter U.S. soldiers overseas. He stated that the suicide bomber was on par with a soldier who jumps on a grenade to save his friends. And yet, he was still in charge of helping and comforting younger, more impressionable soldiers who had their friends killed by suicide bombers.

this event is tragic to be sure, but it represents a failure much larger than just this man who carried out these attacks.

Heads will roll in his command for sure, it's sad that because of some PC bullshit he wasn't hammered on before he went all allah akbar on fellow soldiers.

[M-technik-3]

I don't seem to remember seeing on the news that this was done out of religious martyrdom but more as a suicide and vengeance for being persecuted.

Very sad to see acts like this happen.

[dvs909]

precisely.. i'm not trying to single out any one religion, mu point is that all religions are equally bad when they are not tolerant of other's beliefs and value systems. forcing your beliefs whether through covert acts of violence or terrorism or through more subtle methods such as conversions in poor countries in the name of God is never right imo.

sadly not all relegions are equally bad. christianity it tolerant of everyone. islam is a relegion of hate. did you look up those versus i posted from the quran?

in history when christianity has been forced upon people, it was to gain power, not to try to win they're souls. which shows you that its not the relegion, because they're isn't scripture that encourages those actions. in islam there IS

[dvs909]

explain the crusades then.. now you stfu.

Do you know fucking anything? the crusades weren't biblically based. the crusades were a tool for those in power to gain wealth and prestige, they thinly vieled it as being a relgious crusade because no man would die in a far away place otherwise. the majority of people in those days were illiterate. so the ability of governments to sway the population with relegion was easy.
it wasnt christianity that started the crusades, it was corrupt people.

[dvs909]

+1





Don't say Christianity doesn't bring about ridiculous shit.

they're crazy. first they are wrong and have no scripitual basis for wishing the soldiers to be dead... they are just crazy.
second. they are only talking, not strapping on bombs.
third. they're fucking crazy.

[Ral]

what I find odd is that he has been recorded as saying extreme remarks by fellow officers, and nothing happened. Here was a man who, in uniform, stated to others in uniform that he thought it acceptable for people to slaughter U.S. soldiers overseas. He stated that the suicide bomber was on par with a soldier who jumps on a grenade to save his friends. And yet, he was still in charge of helping and comforting younger, more impressionable soldiers who had their friends killed by suicide bombers.

this event is tragic to be sure, but it represents a failure much larger than just this man who carried out these attacks.

[ramdmc]

Wow, has this thread ever degraded. Have some respect people, what? 12 people lost their lives? And countless others lost a brother, sister, parent, friend? Wtf, put your personal agendas aside. I'm new here and like the spirit of this forum, but sometimes things get nasty.

Btw, theres a city in Spain, Cordoba where Jews, Muslims, and Christians all lived peacefully together for 600 years. It can be done, you just have to want it and try not to judge one another. You don't have to look too hard to find beauty in diversity.

RC

[Mako18]

I feel for the families and friends and even the normal everyday person who has to hear reports about events like these . No matter the motivation for this dildo's actions it is truly sad and selfish. Far to often these things occur at the hands of the extremist terrorists both foreign and domestic. I believe humans are a virus (figuratively) as well, we are selfish & destructive in everyway we will find a problem with anything and the answer is always the same dominate and destroy. Humans are addicted to dominating a perceived enemy or target we will use any excuse to light the flame to carry on our proclaimed selfless agenda's. The cycle will repeat until humans no longer populate this planet or any other. Remember its never you that is the problem. Nope, always the other guy.....the different one..with the odd skin color, the one that believes in allah or jesus or not in anything at all, thats bad tell your friends and family, general, congressman we must do something about this NOW!!!!!


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[joshh]

he was both.

edit: i believe thats what you were getting at. yes?

One in the same pretty much.

[tonytony]

it's not even worth starting to argue with the rest of you about religions or presidents. You have no concept of constructive argument. You simply repeat your (misconstrued) point louder and tell "the other side" to shut the fuck up. It's immature and points to a weak, easily-misled psyche, which is disappointing.

+1

[kishg]

he wasn't mentally ill he was religious.....oh wait....

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[ben312]

He wasn't mentally ill he was religious.....oh wait....

he was both.

edit: i believe thats what you were getting at. yes?

[joshh]

He wasn't mentally ill he was religious.....oh wait....

[ben312]

and all of you arguing over religion do know that jews, christians and muslims all worship the same god right? the only difference is muslims say that muhammad as their savior and christians jesus, and jews are still "waiting." in fact muslims even say jesus was a profit or whatever. its dumb for them all to fight over the same fucking god.