Shit hits the fan in Fort Hood, Texas. 50 casualties.

[ben312]

Let me guess - you probably think Michelle Obama is hot, right?

no, but I may be the only american left that respects his president.

[E30 Cabrio]

my thing with bush and you obama haters is that bush is the one who fucked up the country but you love to blame obama. and lets think, if he had not spent the money then we would be EVEN DEEPER in this shit whole we are in. i do not agree with many of things he does, but again he hasn't done anything and you love to point fingers.
"before you point fingers, make sure your hands are clean."
bush put us in the shit storm we are in, obama is trying to fix it. but the whole point in my comment was that you take something like a man saying, don't speak before you know, and turn it into a comment about how he is a bad person and shouldn't be prez? really? we get it, you don't like him, now go sit and play nice with the other babies. the facts are he won, you lost, get over it. now back to the topic of this thread please.

Let me guess - you probably think Michelle Obama is hot, right?

[kishg]

youve never read the bible, right?

Actually i have, although i will admit it was about 20 years ago. Although I was born buddhist, I was quite interested in all world religions in my teens and studied whatever I could about most of them before coming to the conclusion that I do not believe in God.

[kronus]

sins he was a shrink and he worked with other shrinks should they have not seen it coming?

Him being a shrink probably made it easier for him to hide his own mental issues. Mental Health personnel are assumed to be able to hold their shit together, so there is less attention toward them, not more. Plus, he was a major, and probably pulled rank on anyone who noticed something off about him, so nothing was reported with any measure of success.

It is interesting that nothing has been released about the other two guys involved, but is probably being done as a protective measure. If they also have a hint of Arabic to their name, every single member of the armed forces that is not white, black, or Hispanic will be vilified, and the armed forces cannot afford to lose those people or any potential recruits turned away by the expected internal reaction due to already existing troop shortages.

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It's not even worth starting to argue with the rest of you about religions or presidents. You have no concept of constructive argument. You simply repeat your (misconstrued) point louder and tell "the other side" to shut the fuck up. It's immature and points to a weak, easily-misled psyche, which is disappointing.

[kishg]

They ignored the 3rd and 6th Commandments :(

precisely.. i'm not trying to single out any one religion, mu point is that all religions are equally bad when they are not tolerant of other's beliefs and value systems. forcing your beliefs whether through covert acts of violence or terrorism or through more subtle methods such as conversions in poor countries in the name of God is never right imo.

[markseven]

explain the crusades then.. now you stfu.

And the Great Inquisition.

They ignored the 3rd and 6th Commandments :(

[ak-]

Only reason psychiatrists become psychiatrists is to figure themselves out.

[deutschman]

sins he was a shrink and he worked with other shrinks should they have not seen it coming?

[lennon]

explain the crusades then.. now you stfu.

yeah, that's why the priests are fucking all the altar boys whenever possible.

what happened? god change his mind?

youve never read the bible, right?

[ak-]

explain the crusades then.. now you stfu.

what happened? god change his mind?

And the Great Inquisition.

Maybe the Bible should get it's facts straight.

I guess you didn't read the parts where the Bible also degrades women and talks of sacrificing children and wiping out entire cities.

Also, there are plenty of peaceful Muslims who will tell you that their religion does not allow the killing of unbelievers. It's all about interpretation.

[Massive Lee]

explain the crusades then.. now you stfu.

And the Great Inquisition.

[kishg]

your reading from the old testament. the old testament rules were superseded by the new testament.
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what happened? god change his mind?

[kishg]

the difference is these priests dont try to justify their actions biblically. because the bible is against A. homosexuality. B. Sex before marriage.

yeah, that's why the priests are fucking all the altar boys whenever possible.

[kishg]

Christianity is not.
Christianity has no sanction for the killing of anyone. the entire new testament is dedicated to helping others not hurting.

Not true for Islam. Islam allows the killing of "unbelievers" and degrades women.

get your facts fucking straight before you spout off.

straight from the quran Surah 8:60 Strike terror into the heartsof the enemies of Allah and your enemies
Surah 9:14 fight them and allah will pnish them by your hands, cover them with shame
Surah 8:12 (this allows muslims to claim it wasnt them and it was god) i will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips off them. it is not ye who slew them, it was Allah
Al Bukhari vol. 1:25 mohammed once was aksed what the best deed for the muslim next to believing in allah was. his answer was "to participate in jihad in allah's cause"
surah 9:5 fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them, and seize them and beleaguer them and lie in wait for them in every strategem.

now shut the fuck up and admit im right.

explain the crusades then.. now you stfu.

[Farbin Kaiber]

^^^ So you don't agree with free market self correction? That is what was going on, until a bunch of guys decided to jump in.

That's not what I was saying. You just don't hear about them to the same extent as Islamic extremists.

And, not what I was saying either.