Obama State of the Union

[Anthrax]

I think I agree in a way. I don´t really like it when people americans refer to as "evolutionists", say "there is no God", just as much as religious people say there is one. Who the fuck knows.

[Jean]

Not really, as it wouldn´t solve anything.
It´s just that the only place I ever heard anyone say that evolution is a lie, is from americans.
Or from some religious cult.

I´m not an atheist, but it annoys me when people disregard things because it doesn´t fit into a book written 2000 years ago.

In God We Trust




In God We Trust



In God We Trust

[ck_taft325is]

Not really, as it wouldn´t solve anything.
It´s just that the only place I ever heard anyone say that evolution is a lie, is from americans.
Or from some religious cult.

I´m not an atheist, but it annoys me when people disregard things because it doesn´t fit into a book written 2000 years ago.

Yeah it annoys me too when people push their religion on me... Evolution included.

And there's this place called the Middle East.

[Anthrax]

Not really, as it wouldn´t solve anything.
It´s just that the only place I ever heard anyone say that evolution is a lie, is from americans.
Or from some religious cult.

I´m not an atheist, but it annoys me when people disregard things because it doesn´t fit into a book written 2000 years ago.

[mrsleeve]

do you really want to go there?????


I am a firm supporter of evolution, but srsly you want to go there???

[Anthrax]

It´s funny how evolution is only questioned in the US.
Over here in europe? Not very much. Wonder why....

[jeff_b]

The amount of physical evidence supporting the theory of evolution would barely fill a hallway closet. Scientists have recently admitted that an as-yet undetermined "event" began the homo sapiens species we know and love today. It's too far of a reach genetically, according to my recollection. Sounds kin to evolution, I reckon.

[ck_taft325is]

I'm trying to stay out of most of this (and chances are I won't be back unless something intellectual shows up), and perhaps this isn't the right thread, but the rolleyes caught me on this one.

The woman does not believe in evolution. She doesn't think that man evolved from "monkeys who eventually swung down from the trees." If you look at all the evidence - and this is not some outrageous, anecdotal example - and realllly don't believe in evolution, then you clearly lack the ability to apply critical thinking to issues in general. For Christ's sake (pun not intended but not removed), she's even declared herself a young earth creationist (and, to be fair, backpedaled from it)!

Someone of such incompetence is not fit for office. Period.

And to fucking drive the nail home, you narrow-minded fuckstick, your lovely President Obama is a LIFE LONG Church go-er. So pick your poison, retard... A. Obama is not fit for office (by your own admission of criteria) or B. He's a lying pile of fucking shit that sucks off the idiot vote and will say, do, smile, laugh, frown at anything to get himself votes i.e. power. Which in it's basic form, a lust for/of power is putrid acid for a society.

Not only did Sleeve hand you your ass by exposing you to be the problem of all religion (Christianity, Satanism, Paganism, Evolution, etc etc...), you've done a fine damn job of looking down your giant nose at everyone who has an opinion that differs from your own. Get off your fucking high horse.

[mrsleeve]

I'm trying to stay out of most of this (and chances are I won't be back unless something intellectual shows up), and perhaps this isn't the right thread, but the rolleyes caught me on this one.

The woman does not believe in evolution. She doesn't think that man evolved from "monkeys who eventually swung down from the trees." If you look at all the evidence - and this is not some outrageous, anecdotal example - and realllly don't believe in evolution, then you clearly lack the ability to apply critical thinking to issues in general. For Christ's sake (pun not intended but not removed), she's even declared herself a young earth creationist (and, to be fair, backpedaled from it)!

Someone of such incompetence is not fit for office. Period.

Oh boy here we go I just cant let this one go, not because I am sticking up for Palin, but for everyone no matter the beliefs.

1 to get it outta the way I hate religion, dont partake and its not for me.

Now on the other foot, If thats what gives a person the grounding they need to accept their circumstances and live a good life and gets them through the day so be it, good for them.

You see while you put your faith in evolution and that our existence is pure accident and luck of the draw. Thats fine thats our purgative as its theirs to place it on something else.

Belief in something greater is not necessarily a sign of mental weakness, some of the smartest people I know are some of the most devout Christians you will ever meet. Not to say this is always the case, because there are most certainly those that further such stereotypes. Just like there is in any group of individuals.

Our constitution protects yours, mine and everyone elses freedoms to worship or not, any and all gods, deities, theories, persons and ideologies they wish. To say some one is not qualified to hold public office based on their religious beliefs is, not only narrow minded, short sighted, and childish its also not allowed to be a criteria in the public forum in determining eligibility for public service.


I give you Article 6 of the Constitution the part in bold is what you need to pay attention to.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Lastly by taking the position you have stated above you have not only lowered yourself to the level of the "crazy bible bashing religious nuts" that condemn any one that dose not think them, but have shown how you actually lack the very things you accuse them of. Now you can make these judgments on a personal level if you so chose that is also your right. That dose not mean that you are anywhere close to correct in your assumptions, Just to reiterate religious dose not always = Backwoods, uneducated, fool....... it seems the more education you get the more foolish you may become.


Grow the FUCK up.


(full disclosure: I like Pailn yes, but not as a presidential candidate, as a senator or congress woman sure)

[Bill 84 318i]

lol, yeah but she's religious so she couldn't possibly be smart.

I'm trying to stay out of most of this (and chances are I won't be back unless something intellectual shows up), and perhaps this isn't the right thread, but the rolleyes caught me on this one.

The woman does not believe in evolution. She doesn't think that man evolved from "monkeys who eventually swung down from the trees." If you look at all the evidence - and this is not some outrageous, anecdotal example - and realllly don't believe in evolution, then you clearly lack the ability to apply critical thinking to issues in general. For Christ's sake (pun not intended but not removed), she's even declared herself a young earth creationist (and, to be fair, backpedaled from it)!

Someone of such incompetence is not fit for office. Period.

[ck_taft325is]

Duh. Maybe because Palin is indeed stupid and Obama smart. ;)

But the "coup de maître" on that speech was to make Americans realize that with 50 percent of the seats, the Republicans are also responsible for making things work or collapse, and that opposing everything all the time is not the way to go ahead...

Well, that's reasonable if it's REASONABLE. It means nothing if you state what you want, don't budge, force the issue and make ZERO attempt at having some semblance of crossing party lines to make a plan that actually works. I don't even want to re-hash all of the primary points of Obama's failures. He's made it clear that his Agenda is 100% paramount to ANYTHING else regarding this country. He is not for the success of this country as he is out to prove that Democratic Liberal Socialism is his Religion.

We cannot prove who is smarter (Obama vs. Palin) as any conclusions made are thoroughly subject (apparently) to personal view points, agendas (Anti-ANY Religion, Period), ideals, beliefs, rhetoric. To make a point that Palin is stupid, is ignorant. However, I would assert that by making such a retarded, flamboyant, idiotic, clearly prejudiced statement does in fact, make you much stupider than either.

You live in Canada. Why are you even in this discussion? We all understand you're all for the state (Government) wiping your asshole and taking care of everything so you don't have to think for yourself. I'd be thrilled if you just stayed in Canada forever.

To insinuate that Republicans are causing the collapse of our country because they stand against what doesn't sit right with them, is the fucking stupidest thing Obama could say. Maybe if what was proposed was mildly bi-partisan, it would get some credit. Furthermore, Republicans have been crying for simply a VOICE in what's proposed. If you use (or have) any basic reasoning skills or logic, you'll realize that while yes, both parties have their issues, and bad apples, the Democrats have been very one sided in how they've gone about things since Obama was elected. Hell, his statement to the Republicans after he won was, "Too bad I won".

And to call out the Justices like that. Fucking bad form, man. That's tantamount to sitting a child in front of you and telling him it was wrong to take Sally's lunch money. He's made it perfectly clear that if you stand against HIS view points, HIS rhetoric, HIS agenda, HIS philosophy, HIS religion, HIS convictions, YOU'RE the Enemy. The polls violently disagree with what Obama thinks this country wants. He keeps calling everyone to the floor for disagreeing with him and maybe how they should open their eyes, or ears, or minds to his agenda, all in the name of Democracy. He's so blinded by his conviction to his religion he's chosen to be ignorant to the betterment of his Country.

It Disgusts me.

[rwh11385]

Duh. Maybe because Palin is indeed stupid and Obama smart. ;)

But the "coup de maître" on that speach was to make Americans realize that with 50 percent of the seats, the Republicans are also responsible for making things work or collapse, and that opposing everything all the time is not the way to go ahead...

Is there some sorta of canadian math that makes 41% or 44% = 50%?

[Massive Lee]

Funny how many people who think Palin is stupid also think that Obama is smart.

Duh. Maybe because Palin is indeed stupid and Obama smart. ;)

But the "coup de maître" on that speach was to make Americans realize that with 50 percent of the seats, the Republicans are also responsible for making things work or collapse, and that opposing everything all the time is not the way to go ahead...

[Ryan Stewart]

You don't think that a Journalism major, former Mayor, former Governor, former Chairperson of the Alaska Gas and Oil committee, highly sought after public speaker and best-selling author is incapable of writing a 12 paragraph response to the State of the Union address?

Explain.

I dont think she did it herself. Like said, she had help. I believe that because:

a. I know Journalism majors working at McDonald's. Not because its a bullshit degree, because they floated through it and are still idiots.
b. Mayor? Marion Barry /argument.
c. Gov? Jesse Ventura, and he was the gov of a mainland state. /argument.
d. Public speaker? Well, if someone else is writing it....
e. Author? Pamela Anderson is an author, think about it.

Im not saying she is on the same level as any of these people. Just hitting on all of the major points about how they dont really prove anything.

I think she can write something that long. I just dont think she could articulate such thoughts on her own without help.

[Maluco]

You don't think that a Journalism major, former Mayor, former Governor, former Chairperson of the Alaska Gas and Oil committee, highly sought after public speaker and best-selling author is capable of writing a 12 paragraph response to the State of the Union address?

Explain.

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