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    Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
    Yeah and 12,000 years ago where you live was covered by a few 1000 feet of ice.
    I know, I was there, remember?
    Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
    Were the camp fires that primitive humans lighting off putting enough CO2 up to start global warming ??????
    Did you read my whole post? I said that no one knows whether or not human beings are the cause of this phenomenon. You're trying to start a pointless argument with me, because I don't really take any solid stance on either side.
    Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
    Nope go out side and look up at that big yellow fucking thing in the sky, there you have your answer to global warming.
    Could be. Did you know that the sun has "seasons" similar to the way the earth does? Periods of heating and cooling, per se. I saw a presentation on this a couple of years ago. This is one of the scientific arguments on the side of the debate that says that people do not cause global warming.
    Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
    Oh BTW, Massive and rapid Climate shifts have been the norm on this
    ball of dirt for billions of years the last 5-6k years of stability is the exception not the rule
    Scientists have no proof to back up what you just said. Only evidence. But they do, however have proof that says that the earth's average temperature has been rising over the past 30 years.


    Originally posted by Aptyp View Post
    Earth is a cooling planet, so maybe it's a global cooling? Maybe last 30 years is a phase? Ah, why do I bother, you said no one knows, so you're just talking out of your ass...

    And using Bush as an example? Really? You?
    Just trying to appeal to the right-wing global-warming skeptics.
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      Originally posted by pbr87 View Post


      Could be. Did you know that the sun has "seasons" similar to the way the earth does? Periods of heating and cooling, per se. I saw a presentation on this a couple of years ago. This is one of the scientific arguments on the side of the debate that says that people do not cause global warming.
      Yeah no shit why do you think I said it. Solar out put can vary from day to day, hour to hour, or century to century or anything in between. There is enough energy hitting the surface of the earth in any give hour to power all of humanities energy demands for something like a decade. Its a chain Nuclear fusion reaction that is only regulated by its own fucking mass and composition, other wise it would have snuffed it self out 4.5 billion years ago.

      You dont think slight variation of solar out put can effect the temp on earth????

      Originally posted by pbr87
      Scientists have no proof to back up what you just said. Only evidence. But they do, however have proof that says that the earth's average temperature has been rising over the past 30 years.

      Yeah and the Human induced change is proven beyond any doubt What the fuck has it been doing over the past 12000, why is there still not 3000 feet of ice over our heads???? Why did the ice ages end end and begin?????

      Come on man use your head, How long has this ball of dirt been around???? How long has life been on it???? How far back do we have accurate weather records??? Yeah about 150 years, dude thats less than a milli second in time in the grand Scheme of things, thats less then a snap shot. WE have not a clue of the short term weather patterns are let alone ones that play out over 100' or 1000's or 100,000's of years.

      Its the SUN really it is.
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        it's snowing AGAIN... about an inch on the ground already, luckily not sticking.

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          Ah, ah. I spent an hour this afternoon,only wearing jeans and tshirt, shovelling snow from the front of my house to the street for quicker melting. The sun was warm, and air was mild. and this is supposed to be the Great White North...
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            Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
            Yeah no shit why do you think I said it. Solar out put can vary from day to day, hour to hour, or century to century or anything in between. There is enough energy hitting the surface of the earth in any give hour to power all of humanities energy demands for something like a decade. Its a chain Nuclear fusion reaction that is only regulated by its own fucking mass and composition, other wise it would have snuffed it self out 4.5 billion years ago.

            You dont think slight variation of solar out put can effect the temp on earth????




            Yeah and the Human induced change is proven beyond any doubt What the fuck has it been doing over the past 12000, why is there still not 3000 feet of ice over our heads???? Why did the ice ages end end and begin?????

            Come on man use your head, How long has this ball of dirt been around???? How long has life been on it???? How far back do we have accurate weather records??? Yeah about 150 years, dude thats less than a milli second in time in the grand Scheme of things, thats less then a snap shot. WE have not a clue of the short term weather patterns are let alone ones that play out over 100' or 1000's or 100,000's of years.

            Its the SUN really it is.


            Records in terms of long term averages give a fairly good picture... of course though, you're not going to get the weather report for July 19th, 12,851BC... short term weather patterns are variable upon many factors. Jet streams, [resultant] areas of high/low pressure, season, the sun's intensity, volcanic eruptions, sea surface temperatures, the list goes on...
            I'm sure I don't need to lecture on statistical sampling... but it should seem obvious that at the end of the day, we can get a pretty good picture of YEARLY averages for the past few thousand years... and clearly YEARLY GLOBAL averages are what we're interested in, as they're what will affect climate change.
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              Originally posted by HarryPotter View Post
              Not really sure how having unusually cold winters down south eliminates any sign of global warming. I almost see it as the earth doing something about it. Doesn't anybody wonder why the fuck it is so cold?
              It was predicted by the farmers alminac, which only uses trending. Only a few records fell, otherwise its not been incredibly cold. The issue is the past decade or so has been incredibly mild, spoiling motherfuckers.

              Also, global warming is over, the trend line fell in 2003.
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                More snow today in GA. Interesting day. Probably will be all gone tomorrow.

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                  More snow in AL today. Tired of that shit.

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                    Originally posted by Massive Lee View Post
                    Ah, ah. I spent an hour this afternoon,only wearing jeans and tshirt, shovelling snow from the front of my house to the street for quicker melting. The sun was warm, and air was mild. and this is supposed to be the Great White North...
                    I was in Montreal for 6 days. Sunday was a little cold (compared to our very mild winter this year), but otherwise not bad. Of course the sun finally came out when we left.. damnit!
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                      Here in Lacey, t shirt and jeans, slight rain, out until midnight

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                        I love the snow but am ready for sun now that I sold the e30 and am stuck driving my Chevrolegs for a while. Feetararis for those chevy haters..
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                          We got about an inch last week and maybe somemore tonight, but other then that most of our snow is gone. I wish I had had my camera on me when we got 6ft snow drifts on both sides of the roads. It was like driving in a very narrow cayon, made of snow. Even the stock ride height volvo was leaving bumper trials in the snow it was so high on some streets around here.
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                            Its snowing right now in Nashville. It wont do anything though. Its like 40 degrees here.
                            Bahaha

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