For the sake of EJ's FS thread...

[ck_taft325is]

Can you "un-weld" the one from peerless and move it to another car if (god forbid) you get in a accident, or just want to swap shells? Seems like a reasonable question.

I hadn't even thought about this.

"peerless" - care to comment? Are you offering a few skid plate in the event someone totals their car since it's pretty much a part of the vehicle for a bunch of money and they can't really remove and move to another vehicle?

[decay]

seeing as he's been banned, he probably won't respond.

[E30Nova]

So...what'd I miss?

Matt

[ck_taft325is]

seeing as he's been banned, he probably won't respond.

Well God damnit. Debacle.

[Patches]

So what Im still waiting for, are pros and cons of both plates.

[ck_taft325is]

From what I've gathered:

"peerless" off-road plate:
Pros: Heavy gauge steel. Sturdy enough to jack the car off of and support vehicles weight. Can break walnuts with it's butt cheeks.
Cons: Heavy. Non-transferable. Requires welding (i.e. body work) to mount. Not for the faint of heart nor an "easy" install. Expensive. Shitty, condescending, unscrupulous manufactuer (sp?). Terrible customer service.

EJ's skid-plate:
Pros: Lightweight yet heavy duty enough for daily driving. Easy install (minutes). Tons of shining reviews. Cheap price for the security in the face of a mishap. Fantastic customer service. Local to us West Coasters (relative).
Cons: Repeated abuse *can* lead to cracking an oil pan in the face of a railroad track. ????

[stumble_t]

I think He's pushed EJ to make a better product.

I don't get what you guys have your panties in a bunch for. The "race skid plate" is weaker than the "Severe duty skid plate". If you argue that, you aren't too bright.

For now this is true. I will make both one for daily and one All-Terrain

If I were purchasing right now I would go with a peerless pan and mount it with hardware(no weld).
I'm interested in EJ's "Heavy Duty" build though...If he's going to compete, I expect him to bring it and I guess it will be cheaper.

[ck_taft325is]

Haha, "peerless"' whole design is benchmarked on the welding part, buddy ;)

And hey, if you can't drive, by all means, go with the off-road plate. The fact stands that EJ's skid-plate does EXACTLY what it's intended to do.

[stumble_t]

Haha, "peerless"' whole design is benchmarked on the welding

No, his design is superior in the "cross brace"

And hey, if you can't drive, by all means, go with the off-road plate.

Foolish Argument.

[Fidhle007]

From what I've gathered:

"peerless" off-road plate:
Pros: Heavy gauge steel. Sturdy enough to jack the car off of and support vehicles weight. Can break walnuts with it's butt cheeks.
Cons: Heavy. Non-transferable. Requires welding (i.e. body work) to mount. Not for the faint of heart nor an "easy" install. Expensive. Shitty, condescending, unscrupulous manufactuer (sp?). Terrible customer service.

EJ's skid-plate:
Pros: Lightweight yet heavy duty enough for daily driving. Easy install (minutes). Tons of shining reviews. Cheap price for the security in the face of a mishap. Fantastic customer service. Local to us West Coasters (relative).
Cons: Repeated abuse *can* lead to cracking an oil pan in the face of a railroad track. ????

EJ's plate is just as thick as the Peenless plate, it just has vent/weight cuts in it. Also I've jacked my car up by it numerous times and it's not even remotely bent. And low? Well, I couldn't get the toe of my running shoe under my splitter and I have an S50 plate which hangs lower then the M20 and I live in NH... Seriously, if people are still breaking oil pans with a Raceskids plate they are bad drivers with broken motor mounts.

[ck_taft325is]

No, his design is superior in the "cross brace"



Foolish Argument.

Who was argueing? I was all for you buying the more expensive weld-on off road plate. By all means ;)

[ck_taft325is]

EJ's plate is just as thick as the Peenless plate, it just has vent/weight cuts in it. Also I've jacked my car up by it numerous times and it's not even remotely bent. And low? Well, I couldn't get the toe of my running shoe under my splitter and I have an S50 plate which hangs lower then the M20 and I live in NH... Seriously, if people are still breaking oil pans with a Raceskids plate they are bad drivers with broken motor mounts.

Exactly.

[Fidhle007]

Who was argueing? I was all for you buying the more expensive weld-on off road plate. By all means ;)

Just what he needs, a shovel glued to the front of his car...

That's another point, if any of you have ever gone accidentally offroading in the winter you'll know that snow in your engine bay can be a problem. The Peenless plate design will simply act as a scoop and make this issue worse where the ramp design of EJ's plate would make things a whole lot better. That said, I usually drive my IX in the winter and no one makes a plate for those yet so the point is moot for me for the time being but I still think it's valid.

[Fidhle007]

One last thought:

I crashed my S50 car. My Raceskids plate was perfect so in about ten minutes I removed it and put in the pile with all the other good bits to save for my new car. Please note that the above process required only a wrench and not a plasma cutter...

[bataangpinoy]

its purely preference folks. me, im an idiot and i track the car. i dont use a skid plate.
if you can drive the car fine on the street i dont know why you need a plate from the start.... and my car is low to the point where my bilstiens live on the bump stop.