Bill O'reilly vs. that God hates the USA for loving fags church

[ck_taft325is]

They may say the same back to you - that's the problem with religion. You can nearly defend any action.

Religion, yes. But belief or faith are seperate. What these yahoo's are doing is very, very religious. I'm against religion in everyway. Religion and legalism are in direct opposition of Christianity. People, anyone, religious or not, can defend a viewpoint or action until they are blue in the face. I consider it "religious" at that point, regardless of the subject matter.

[Turf1600]

Religion, yes. But belief or faith are seperate. What these yahoo's are doing is very, very religious. I'm against religion in everyway. Religion and legalism are in direct opposition of Christianity. People, anyone, religious or not, can defend a viewpoint or action until they are blue in the face. I consider it "religious" at that point, regardless of the subject matter.

So what you're saying is that religion is void of logic and isn't parallel with mores.

[mightywhitey]

If one of my two sons dies in action, which as an American and a father I am ready to deal with, and a group of protesters came to the funeral and shit on my our greeving I would probably shoot them.

I cant imagine not shooting them.

[ck_taft325is]

I'm not defining religion as an organized group of people that get together and share the same faith and/or beliefs. If being an organized group of people that believe the same thing is religious, then we're all in the "church" of e30 as we all love and enjoy these little cars far too much.

Religion is legalism, bigotry, hate, etc. Taking a good thing and twisting it until it's unrecognizable. So yes, I am saying by this definition of religion that it is void of logic ;)

[Turf1600]

I'm not defining religion as an organized group of people that get together and share the same faith and/or beliefs. If being an organized group of people that believe the same thing is religious, then we're all in the "church" of e30 as we all love and enjoy these little cars far too much.

Religion is legalism, bigotry, hate, etc. Taking a good thing and twisting it until it's unrecognizable. So yes, I am saying by this definition of religion that it is void of logic ;)

If religion is void of logic then why are you trying to apply logic to their actions?

They have used words out of the bible to come up with their ideas. What makes anyone else's ideas better or more "correct"?

[ck_taft325is]

I'll be honest here, you've lost me with this first part. I'll need a bit more on it to respond at all and make any sense.

Last time I read my Bible I didn't see "God hates fags". In fact, last I checked the Bible says there's no sin that's above another in the sight of God. Homosexuals are just "sinners" like anyone else. The first step to being a Christian is realizing you're the same piece of shit as anyone else on this planet and no better. Just because you're a believer or have faith, doesn't abdicate you from being a pile of crap.

Just by being there with signs says they've missed the whole point and teachings of the Bible.

Now we're into no "real truth" territory or, universalism/pluralism. I'll answer a question with a question, which I hate but 'eh... What doesn't make anyone else's ideas better or more "correct"? Furthermore, if you insist that no one can determine which beliefs are right and wrong, why should anyone believe what you are saying? The reality is that we all make truth-claims of some sort and it is very hard to weigh them responsibly, but we have no alternative but to try and do so. To claim otherwise is ironic.

[jrhaile]

Ah, ah, ah. Noob!!!
This ain't him in the avatar picture. I don't even remember who that goofy face is... ;-) Alkaseltzer maybe?

I know it's not him. I saw his pic in the other thread...

[Jparkr]

I Think it is bull shit that they are able to sue for their 1st being violated...

They don't pay taxes; and they are protesting AS the church.

Now if these fuckers were out there on their own saying this shit, then I can understand because every American citizen has these rights.
But they are going out there as the church. I don't feel that churches should have any rights when they are freeloading AND up to no good.

[Turf1600]

I know it's not him. I saw his pic in the other thread...

In which thread am I wearing a hat?

[Alkasquawlik]

In which thread am I wearing a hat?

this thread mother fucker.

[Turf1600]

this thread mother fucker.

Whatever, forehead guy from the office.

[Alkasquawlik]

Whatever, forehead guy from the office.

hey, i don't look like him at all.

[Wh33lhop]

I'm fully aware I'm voicing a common, obvious opinion here, but I don't care.

FUCK that stupid piece of fuck group full of worthless FUCKs. The senior members should be drug out into the street and fucking shot in the kneecaps for running the most useless, worthless, ignorant group of shitheads in America, and brainwashing their children to be part of the same cult. Scientology, you haven't got SHIT on these retards.

[Wiglaf]

I still want to know why, out of the thousands that have died, they picked on this particular family.

luck of the draw? first one nearby after the legislation or whatever?

[ck_taft325is]

I still want to know why, out of the thousands that have died, they picked on this particular family.

luck of the draw? first one nearby after the legislation or whatever?

Must be... doesn't seem to be rhyme or reason to it. Makes you want to .