My new iMac came today

[T Verdier]

Allow me to rephrase that for you. Can my (2 years ago) $959 17" Dell laptop do everything that a (2 years ago) $1300 MacBook do, when in the hands of your average computer user (meaning web browsing, multimedia, Photoshop, etc)?

Yes. At a fraction of the cost. I can run OSX on my PC, and Macs can run Windows. Your argument is invalid.

You simply WILL NOT convince me that they are superior in ANY way. I did tech support for them for almost a year. I know every stupid little glitch, issue, problem, hiccup, flaw, mistake, oversight and fuck-up Apple computers can (and most do) have. They have all the same issues as PC's.

Your opinion has worth to me then.



To help, I'm an opera singer, web designer, audio and video engineer. I've got both macs and pcs. My laptop is a Macbook Pro and works fine for Web design stuff but doesn't have the necessary power to do any real audio or video work. I've got a 27" iMac at my full time job as a web designer and developer. BUT I custom built my pc specifically for Audio and Video work, basically think of the specs as a pc version of a top of the line Mac Pro without the 15k price tag. I'd use my pc for the audio/video work any day of the week over the overpriced Mac Pro. My pc cost 3k vs 15k, I'll take that any day!!! (btw I run ProTools 7 with a Digi002 rack for audio and Adobe Premier Pro 2 for Video - along with the full adobe suite for everything else)

My macbook freezes all the time and it's only a year old. it's driving me crazy apparently having Photoshop, Chrome, Firefox and Coda running at the same time chokes it up. Oh, and don't forget my overheating bs.[/QUOTE]

well maybe I'll get a PC then.

[TexasTerp]

well maybe I'll get a PC then.

dollar for dollar a PC will always beat a Mac. It comes down to budget and personal preference in the end.

[Ray Smoodiver]

Hackintosh is the way to go. PC hardware prices with apple software.

[george graves]

^Yep. Plus the mac vs PC debate is SO FUCKING stupid. All the high end software is EXACTLY THE SAME ACROSS PLATFORMS. You'll get no advantage running one OS or the other. IT'S COMMAND FOR COMMAND EXACTLY THE SAME.

I'll take a core i7 running a duel or triple boot any day. I'm planning on building a new video editing rig soon. I just finished a $3k job. Doubt I'll spend more than 2k and it will be all of the best of the best components. i7, 12 gigs of ram, 4 Terabytes, ect... But, I can't do that at the apple store. $2k doesn't even get my foot in the door for what I need. With that said, Macs are sexy....if you're into ass rape.

At the end of the day, no one has ever hired be because I run one OS or the other. They hire me for my work. After the boot up screen, who the fuck cares what you're running? And who's spending all the time in the OS anyways?

[Erik]

I love how every great musician and photographer I know uses macs, but a bunch of people on r3v talk shit about them. Hmmm funny.
Let's have a poll. I want every serious musician, and photographer
to speak up, what do you use? Because if your computer is used to wack-off to porn and go on r3v then your opinion is worthless to me.

Maybe thier just buying into the hype that macs are better for editing.

I use Aperture for organizing and most editing and Photoshop CS3 for major editing on my MacBook Pro. I love this computer. Everytime I have had to use a PC since owning this machine it has made my head hurt as to how much they have changed them. :(

[s0urce]

I love how every great musician and photographer I know uses macs, but a bunch of people on r3v talk shit about them. Hmmm funny.
Let's have a poll. I want every serious musician, and photographer
to speak up, what do you use? Because if your computer is used to wack-off to porn and go on r3v then your opinion is worthless to me.

Maybe thier just buying into the hype that macs are better for editing.

Yea no shit? Musicians and Photographers are just that...they're not computer guys. Therefore they need an oversimplified, watered down version of a computer built for morons and trendy fucks.

[Jon325i]

Yea no shit? Musicians and Photographers are just that...they're not computer guys. Therefore they need an oversimplified, watered down version of a computer built for morons and trendy fucks.

This.

My aunt has an iMac and is now looking into a laptop for work travel needs. She's considering a MacBook of some sort, because "I just like Apple." I've tried to explain to her about the many similarities of productivity software she needs and how a Windows based portable can handle all of her travel computing needs for much, much less. However, that convo was about as effective as talking to a wall. She still wants an Apple laptop. Fine. Its her money....go waste it if you like.

The only thing Apple that I have is an iPhone 3GS. Very nice device - capable of more than I will possibly need. But it hasn't made me a convert. When my contract is up next year I'm going to give a good look at some Droid-based phones.

Jon

[freeride53]

stupidest decison of my life, going half way on a macbook pro 17in with my sibling. I have supar cu$tomized desktop pc on my workdesk that all my music is on. I have a hybrid external drive on that, which about 10000 pics are stored on, along with a whole lot of buwwshit.

[kronus]

I have a macbook. However, I have about a fifth of its street value when new into it, total, after RAM upgrades, OS upgrades, and everything. That is the only way I can tolerate having such a lackluster laptop.


(protip: buy a used one with a broken screen for a hundred bucks, put a new screen in, profit :D)

[Massive Lee]

Hey Patches. I have been on Macs since 1984. I even trained my own teachers how to use them back in the days.

I am not aware of any PC user who went to Mac who regretted it. Most of posters here are jealous. ;-)

[freeride53]

yeah, my family had a packard bell and a mac IICi back in the good old days. when i was five.

[Kershaw]

You simply WILL NOT convince me that they are superior in ANY way.

they look better.

OP, sorry man. that sucks. why couldnt you just pick up the computer at the apple store? do you live in the boonies? i think there are at least 4 apple stores within reasonable driving distance of me.

[James Crivellone]

Until Apple drives to my house/office to fix my broken computer (like HP does with my Elitebook) I don't care.

Because Jolly-Gee I love searching for an apple store in a city I've never been to just to get my damn laptop fixed.

Apple support is what made me run away from Apple

[Massive Lee]

Or maybe Apple computers don't need to be repaired as often. I went twice in 25 years to have an Apple computer fixed. Once because the HD crashed, and once for spilling fluid on a keyboard. In both cases I could have swapped the parts myself. I was just too busy.

Lee

[TexasTerp]

Hey Patches. I have been on Macs since 1984. I even trained my own teachers how to use them back in the days.

I am not aware of any PC user who went to Mac who regretted it. Most of posters here are jealous. ;-)

I don't necessarily regret going to Mac, I got my Macbook just so I could work natively with compatibility issues. But I can guarantee that I would get a better pc for the price I paid. No doubt about that. I'm with GG on this, when it comes to high-end software that we use, OS is irrelevant. My pc that I built has 5TB, 12GB Ram and Quad-core AMD overclocked to 3.4Ghz with water cooled. Not to mention my dual GTX 480 cards. All for 1/4th the price of the equivalent Mac Pro!

Or maybe Apple computers don't need to be repaired as often. I went twice in 25 years to have an Apple computer fixed. Once because the HD crashed, and once for spilling fluid on a keyboard. In both cases I could have swapped the parts myself. I was just too busy.

Lee

HAHAHAHAHA!

You're a lucky one then, Apple is notorious for having some of the worst hardware of any computer company! Only in the last 4 years have they actually gotten somewhat better. iPods, Macbooks, etc. they've got about a 3 year shelf life then 65% turn to bricks. I've got machead friends who have stacks of iPods that are totally useless. Hell I went through 5 iPods in 2 years and I actually take care of my stuff! (2 HDDs died, 1 click wheel fell off and the other 2 had failed software that locked it up)