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  • SamE30e
    R3V Elite
    • Sep 2007
    • 4319

    #61
    Originally posted by phreshkid
    I wonder which part of the entire "death by lethal injection" is so expensive as to be "3x more expensive than life in prison"? I mean, the formula used in the injection is mostly potassium, since it stops muscle contractions, and when introduced directly into the bloodstream at such concentrated amounts, it only takes a matter of moments to reach the heart since the convict receiving the injection's heart rate will be so elevated as to help move the formula quickly.

    Seems cheap enough.

    You sit on death row for 10+ years and go through appeal after appeal. That's why it's so expensive. The actualy execution isn't the expensive part.
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    • F34R
      sLaughter
      • May 2009
      • 12385

      #62
      if people could just learn respect and apply it to how they live their life, then there would be lots of issues solved.

      But that could never ever happen.
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      • imsotyerred
        R3VLimited
        • Oct 2005
        • 2529

        #63
        Originally posted by ACMF74
        Judaical system is incredibly inefficient.
        fixed for you.
        BRUTE

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        • nando
          Moderator
          • Nov 2003
          • 34827

          #64
          Originally posted by imsotyerred
          fixed for you.
          yuo + speilling = fail
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          • Ryan Stewart
            I Love Miatas
            • Oct 2003
            • 8978

            #65
            Originally posted by Kershaw
            execution costs 3x what imprisonment for life costs.
            Only because they serve a fucking decade on death row filing appeal after appeal. If the bailiff did the deed then there is no way it would cost more.
            Im now E30less.
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            • BraveUlysses
              No R3VLimiter
              • Jun 2007
              • 3781

              #66
              Originally posted by Ryan Stewart
              Only because they serve a fucking decade on death row filing appeal after appeal. If the bailiff did the deed then there is no way it would cost more.
              Wrong.

              http://deathpenaltyinfo.org/MDTestimony08.pdf

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              • Farbin Kaiber
                Lil' Puppet
                • Jul 2007
                • 29502

                #67
                ^ Please show me what out of that 16 pages of shit you want us to read.


                Because out of reading it, I see it saying that the average is 12 years, or 145 months, and the average was 10 years before. So WTF?

                Looks right to me what Ryan said, from your linky.

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                • BraveUlysses
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 3781

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
                  ^ Please show me what out of that 16 pages of shit you want us to read.


                  Because out of reading it, I see it saying that the average is 12 years, or 145 months, and the average was 10 years before. So WTF?

                  Looks right to me what Ryan said, from your linky.
                  You could start with the small section title "REFORMS AND COSTS"

                  You only took enough time to look through it to support your preexisting argument, great job!

                  I'll never understand the "conservatives" who whine about governmental abuse and big government, but are more than willing to claim they support executions the minute the trial is over (not saying this necessarily applies to you)

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                  • Farbin Kaiber
                    Lil' Puppet
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 29502

                    #69
                    No, you gave 16 pages of drivel, trying to get to one paragraph. I read the first four pages...You are an idiot, and don't understand how to support your point.

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                    • BraveUlysses
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 3781

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
                      No, you gave 16 pages of drivel, trying to get to one paragraph. I read the first four pages...You are an idiot, and don't understand how to support your point.
                      I guess I have to spoon feed the baby apparently.

                      The death penalty on the cheap is really no bargain. There is no abstract dollar
                      figure for the cost of the death penalty--it ultimately depends on the quality of the
                      system a state demands. In Illinois, their system was fraught with error. Over a 20-
                      year period, they freed more innocent people from death row than they executed. As a
                      result, a blue-ribbon commission there recommended 85 changes to make the death
                      penalty more reliable; most of these changes, if implemented, will cost the state even
                      more money.15

                      There is little dispute that the death penalty is expensive. Sentencing someone to
                      life in prison is also very expensive. But death penalty costs are accrued up-front,
                      especially at trial and for the early appeals, while life-in-prison costs are spread out over
                      many decades. A million dollars spent today is a lot more costly to the state than a
                      million dollars that can be paid gradually over 40 years.

                      Death penalty cases are clearly more expensive at every stage of the judicial
                      process than similar non-death cases. Everything that is needed for an ordinary trial is
                      needed for a death penalty case, only more so:
                      • more pre-trial time will be needed to prepare: cases typically take a year to come
                      to trial
                      • more pre-trial motions will be filed and answered
                      • more experts will be hired
                      • twice as many attorneys will be appointed for the defense, and a comparable
                      team for the prosecution
                      • jurors will have to be individually quizzed on their views about the death
                      penalty
                      • they are more likely to be sequestered
                      • two trials instead of one will be conducted: one for guilt and one for punishment
                      • the trial will be longer: a cost study at Duke University estimated that death
                      penalty trials take 3 to 5 times longer than typical murder trials
                      • and then will come a series of appeals during which the inmates are held in the
                      high security of death row.

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                      • 5spoke
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 1729

                        #71
                        Originally posted by BraveUlysses
                        I guess I have to spoon feed the baby apparently.

                        I still don't get why you are crying? That paragraph confirmed why executions are expensive. Court costs.
                        Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.
                        This is the internet. Just make something up.

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                        • imsotyerred
                          R3VLimited
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 2529

                          #72
                          Originally posted by nando
                          yuo + speilling = fail
                          it's a good thing i didn't write the original post ;) quoted from post 46

                          you + intarwebz = fail
                          BRUTE

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                          • E30 Cabrio
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 1954

                            #73
                            There are people in California that have been on Death Row for 20+ years.

                            Richard Allen Davis has been sitting on Death Row for about 15 years now...

                            Truth is, most of these guys die of old age and other illnesses before they get the big needle.

                            The process needs to be expedited, especially in "beyond a shadow of a doubt" cases. (DNA evidence, full confession, video evidence, leading authorities to the body, etc...)
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                            • dreamchasin
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 3890

                              #74
                              at least they are doing something right in prison.


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                              • briansjacobs
                                E30 Fanatic
                                • May 2010
                                • 1278

                                #75
                                Originally posted by E30 Cabrio
                                The process needs to be expedited, especially in "beyond a shadow of a doubt" cases. (DNA evidence, full confession, video evidence, leading authorities to the body, etc...)
                                symantics here im sure but, arent all people in jail there "beyond a shadow of a doubt".

                                I have mixed emotions of the death penalty, I have no problem with killing someone that has entered my home or similiar, and I have 3 guns. Where I have a problem is the posibility of a doubt. There are so many cases where 30 years later a man is set free because of DNA evidence. I almost feel to get the death penalty there needs to be a higher lever of proof than "beyond a reasonable doubt"

                                if you are in my house when it is occupied, chances are you will find me as judge, jury, and executioner because I know 110% you are guilty and I will go to great lengths to protect my wife and children. If catch you in the middle of the day when no one is home,I will call 911 and not fire a weapon as there is little threat. that is where my thought process is.
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