Reasons not to buy an E90-

[E30?]

I like the look of my E90 (got the rear lights changed) but the car is a POS. The interior makes cabin noise, the ride is ok, the electronic issues are BS.

Theyve already replaced the moonroof part, the window switch on the driver door didnt work, rubber seal of the drunk. Ohhh and this brake censor issue.

The car was a CPO and only has 34k miles on it atm.


I will never buy another new BMW and maybe no other BMW other than the e30 I want.

[mar1t1me]

I thought that the 135i was going to be that car. Silly of me, I know but here's hoping.

Same here. When the 1 Series was announced I thought "Great! A light-weight stripper that will drive great, have plenty of fun quotient without all the fluff!".

What was I thinking? A car like that wouldn't be the rolling annuity that dealers want, so we didn't get one. If this continues, if I ever want a new car, I'll have to buy a Honda or Mazda or Subie.......

When my kids outgrew the back seat of my E30, I went Back to the Future and bought a real sweet E28 535is. Just enough electronics to be useful, but I can diagnose it with a multimeter.

[VasFinest]

That is all

[imsotyerred]

eh, I still DD the E30, coilovers and all.

The boring car is for the wife to drive.

THIS, over and over again

[nando]

apparently people haven't been car shopping lately because all of its competition are around the same price bracket. I wouldn't listen to the cheap fucks on here telling you to shy away on price.

The e30 is a fucking toy, not a comfortable DD.

eh, I still DD the E30, coilovers and all.

The boring car is for the wife to drive.

[ck_taft325is]

Meh. I used one as a DD for many years. Works just fine. Try going 300K on the original drivetrain parts (minus a clutch and a driveshaft) in an E90 without EVER going to the dealer. Personally, I find the idea of being bent over at the dealer every time the car hiccups to be far more uncomfortable.

Dear BMW: please give us a nice simple car for a change. I don't need 8 brake modes, or a toy diff, or 1001 nannies, PDC, mega-HP, anything my smart phone can do, or any of the other things that distance me from the experience of driving the car.

Build me something that will last. You know how. You used to do it so well.
What does it say about your quality when people are terrified to own one without a warranty?

Sorry for the rant. BMW used to own my motoring heart. Not so much anymore.

I thought that the 135i was going to be that car. Silly of me, I know but here's hoping.

[mar1t1me]

The e30 is a fucking toy, not a comfortable DD.

Meh. I used one as a DD for many years. Works just fine. Try going 300K on the original drivetrain parts (minus a clutch and a driveshaft) in an E90 without EVER going to the dealer. Personally, I find the idea of being bent over at the dealer every time the car hiccups to be far more uncomfortable.

Dear BMW: please give us a nice simple car for a change. I don't need 8 brake modes, or a toy diff, or 1001 nannies, PDC, mega-HP, anything my smart phone can do, or any of the other things that distance me from the experience of driving the car.

Build me something that will last. You know how. You used to do it so well.
What does it say about your quality when people are terrified to own one without a warranty?

Sorry for the rant. BMW used to own my motoring heart. Not so much anymore.

[TheEtaUnderdog]

you are so wrong. how old are you? 60?

running coilovers or track suspensions like most of us have are not comfortable. Sporty, yes. Comfortable, no.

Stop acting like you drive the best car in the world, they are cheap, fun, and easy to work on, thats why we drive them

the various ecu's all over the car is what you need to watch out for-- overly expensive and then your car needs to be completely reprogrammed after install-- very expensive.

+1 to that, electrical on the new stuff blows

actually, here in Germany you are not even going to come close to finding something that cheap-- hell, 13,000 euros will get you into a stripped down base mode (cloth seats with hand crank rear windows) 118d if your lucky

I was in Italy earlier this year and saw the hatch 1 series, I fucking love that car, they are everywhere out there. That car with a swap would be sick

[daniel]

I'm just gonna throw it out there - an E39 530i M-sport (with the M54B30) is a very legitimate option in my opinion. Am I biased? Fuck yes I am, but it's a freakin awesome car, and it'll cost you half as much as an E90. Just update the stereo and you're good.

[1craze30]

The e30 is a fucking toy, not a comfortable DD.

you are so wrong. how old are you? 60?

[mikeedler]

I wouldn't listen to the cheap fucks on here telling you to shy away on price.

The e30 is a fucking toy, not a comfortable DD.

has nothing to do with "being cheap"
it had to do with quality vs. price. I think e90 and family are great cars just overpriced.
actually, here in Germany you are not even going to come close to finding something that cheap-- hell, 13,000 euros will get you into a stripped down base mode (cloth seats with hand crank rear windows) 118d if your lucky.

I see quite a few cars everyday here- today I had a 06' that needs a new DME and possibly
a few injectors-- I am sure the owner is not going to have a very nice christmas. the steering column locking mech. seems to be the biggest problem chassis wise on these cars.

the various ecu's all over the car is what you need to watch out for-- overly expensive and then your car needs to be completely reprogrammed after install-- very expensive.

but, for 16,000 dollars, i would probably jump at one too. try to look for something as close to just out of the warranty as pos. and that has always been serviced by BMW, if something big does go wrong and you find a "good" dealership, you may have a chance at BMW covering atleast some of the cost- atleast thats the way it works here.

[bmw2002tiiagave]

I've got a E60 535i. Same thing except like 200lbs heavier. JB3 + downpipes and the thing is pretty damn quick. Still like my E30 better, its a REAL car.

[TheEtaUnderdog]

apparently people haven't been car shopping lately because all of its competition are around the same price bracket. I wouldn't listen to the cheap fucks on here telling you to shy away on price.

The e30 is a fucking toy, not a comfortable DD.

[AWDE30]

exact! they are way too much money for what they are. used or not, I can't see dropping the cash.

For around $16k and above I am finding 07 328i 6 speeds usually without sports package and usually with maintenance warranty. Should the lack of maintenance warranty be the reason not to buy the car? I assume you work on a number of E9Xs in Germany. I don't know if you see any higher mile/kilometer cars in for service but do they become money pits after a certain point?

[mikeedler]

how about it costs 50 thousand fucking dollars? :p

exact! they are way too much money for what they are. used or not, I can't see dropping the cash.