Originally posted by e36e46
I'm so sick of hearing the verbal diarrhea from e30 m3 owners. So they pull 195 hp out of a 4 cylinder engine and can go to 60 in around 7 seconds. The point is, that although their cars are more rare than latter m3 models, they perform worse in almost every objective performance category. 0-60, quarter mile, skidpad yadda yadda.
So their cars were 'groundbreaking' for the time and all that crap. Model T was groundbreaking for its time, but if a model T owner started putting down Ferraris or any car which spanks their own in so many categories, a good scoff would be in order. Likewise, all these geezers and M 'purists' who put down newer Ms because they aren't carbon copies of the original M3 are just grasping at straws because our newer Ms are empirically and thus objectively, far better cars.
"yes, but I can throw my e30 into corners." Awesome I can throw my e36 into corners too because it doesn't run on skinny wimpy little tires. Then I can accelerate out of those corners much faster and spank you down a straight without hearing the God-awful din of a tuned 4 cylinder car.
What are their criteria for claiming e30 superiority since it clearly is not set in empirical data? It's all this impossible to measure "driver experience" that I hear about. Well my driving experience in newer M cars is pretty friggin good too. Sour grapes because you e30ers are in the honda filled less-than-200 hp club. Except Hondas have bigger tires and nicer sounding 4 bangers.
e30s suck. If you want a great handling car that is underpowered get a miata for half the price. However if you want to hang with the big boys, get a modern contender so you don't have to put down our cars out of insecurity.
So their cars were 'groundbreaking' for the time and all that crap. Model T was groundbreaking for its time, but if a model T owner started putting down Ferraris or any car which spanks their own in so many categories, a good scoff would be in order. Likewise, all these geezers and M 'purists' who put down newer Ms because they aren't carbon copies of the original M3 are just grasping at straws because our newer Ms are empirically and thus objectively, far better cars.
"yes, but I can throw my e30 into corners." Awesome I can throw my e36 into corners too because it doesn't run on skinny wimpy little tires. Then I can accelerate out of those corners much faster and spank you down a straight without hearing the God-awful din of a tuned 4 cylinder car.
What are their criteria for claiming e30 superiority since it clearly is not set in empirical data? It's all this impossible to measure "driver experience" that I hear about. Well my driving experience in newer M cars is pretty friggin good too. Sour grapes because you e30ers are in the honda filled less-than-200 hp club. Except Hondas have bigger tires and nicer sounding 4 bangers.
e30s suck. If you want a great handling car that is underpowered get a miata for half the price. However if you want to hang with the big boys, get a modern contender so you don't have to put down our cars out of insecurity.
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