Most blasphemous words I have ever read...

[payney8]

take all the s14s and stock pile XD

[RainierHooker]

Well, he got one part right. Stock E30 M3's are kinda slow. That's why all those s14's are getting yanked for s50's. Sad really, since it's not a real M3 after that. Or is it?

But, what are you going to do?

Build a 2.5 S14!

[Massive Lee]

^^ tell me what to say.

Simple. A Honda minivan will blow the doors off a 1957 Porsche 356 at an autocross, thanks to 50 years of improved technology. Which car would you rather have in your driveway? Which car will be remembered in another 50 years? Porsche 356 or Honda minivan?

[dannyyisntt]

eh, haters gonna hate. Obviously he doesn't understand that the e30m3 was where it all started...without it he wouldn't have his beloved e36m3.

[dirty30]

This just in: Stock E30 M3's are slow by todays standards.

[george graves]

eh, haters gonna hate.

[YeOldeBuggy]

Bah to that fellow, he probably just got supermanned by a new 5.0 mustang, so he has to lash out at the very small cluster of happy e30 m3 owners out there. I personally feel more at one with my e30 3 series than I did with my e36 m3, and id happily take an e30 m3 over any of the modern m3's, due mostly to the fact that even the newest m3 barely overcomes the new muttstank gt, which is depressing, considering the price differences. And the e30 m stands out. Don't get me wrong. The e46 and e92 m is nice to look at, but so was my last gf, and she was way fucking overpriced, too.

Thad.

[5spoke]

I think the racing history and success really makes the e30 M3 stand out as special to me. During its time it was slaying the competition in almost every single championship race it entered.

I also like the fact that it was truly a different car. There is no mistaking an e30 M3 for another e30, its fender flares and body changes really make it stand out cosmetically. Most newer M cars are just a slight variation of their lower end brethren.

[Massive Lee]

The e30 M3 is the winningest touring car of the automotive history. Period.

[Jonny Cash]

Theres just some people who dont appreciate the rawness of the e30. Their femenin side favors the cushiness and refinment.

Obviously he doesn't understand that the e30m3 was where it all started...

You meant 2002, but thats ok, it fit within the conversation.

[Fusion]

See sig.

[Supadave]

Wish i could find this guy on the street. I'll leave him with his head spinning, he wouldn't know what hit him. He talks like we all run around in stock e30's. Skinny tires my ass...I bet they are way more moded e30 then e36's.

[5Toes]

See sig.

Hahahaha

[7pilot]

Well, he got one part right. Stock E30 M3's are kinda slow. That's why all those s14's are getting yanked for s50's. Sad really, since it's not a real M3 after that. Or is it?

But, what are you going to do?

That's true.
It cost me $4800 or so to rebuild my s14. I can't afford to do that again.
It cost me about the same to install an unstressed, lazy s32. Once the suspension has been uprated for track, the handling balance is about the same, but you have to drive the car differently.
S32s can be had for $2500.
In the fall, I put the s14 back in.
I think it makes more economic sense to use an S5x in the car for track.
I'll retire the car from track after next season and use a regular e30 with the swap, as I do miss the original stock suspension/s14 experience.

The best part about the E30M3 is that it is a totally different driving paradigm than the heavier successors.

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[e30rapidic]

sorry but he's mostly right. I love the e30 M3 but the first thing I would do is swap the anemic engine...to an e36 M3 engine like a lot of people on here have done...or bigger. I've owned my e30 since it was new in '87 and plan on keeping for a while so I know the joy (and frustration) of owning one. But comparing it to a Miata is a bit of a stretch. If I ever win the lotto, I'm getting a real e30 M3 convertible and a Cecotto.

now of course none of my shit is stock......but call me what you want.