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Last edited by 87e30; 04-10-2013, 02:27 PM.Originally posted by z31maniacI just hate everyone.
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thanks.
its for a project finding BOKEH...and yes, its on purpose.
in this case, it all analog...with 2 extra uv filters, and the focus was really on the beach, with a aperature as open as possible, iso was 200 i think, maybe 100,
i have others, but i liked those 2 best,
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^ I see what you were going for but in my opinion just worked out to be distracting and doesn't convey much mood/expression. Especially when you have something good to focus on there, the beach isn't sharp enough to look intentional and the city isn't out of focus enough to not look at confused. My opinion...Originally posted by z31maniacI just hate everyone.
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Thank you!
Thanks, I'm still experimenting and trying not to have all my pics turn out the same way color and darkness wise or I would've gone darker haha. I think my buddy and I make a good team, he takes pics, I edit. This shot was actually taken by another friend with a Jetta TDI Wagon with a GTI front end. It's good having other car enthusiasts to take pics with, everyone seems to be on the same page.
Their cars, unedited pic:
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^ around the tree on the right and the trees above the water the pull down in exposure and increase in color are pretty apparent. The black point seems a bit lower too, so I was thinking maybe the blacks in the ground could be pulled down a little. Or maybe warmed up /added color to flow with the sky. I really don't have the best eye for colors and toning though... wish I could work on it (as that is what separates good editors) but I don't really know how.Originally posted by z31maniacI just hate everyone.
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Its not really bokeh though, is out of focus. For bokeh, you need sharp focus in the foreground and the background blurs out because the depth of field is shallow. At least this is my understanding of it.thanks.
its for a project finding BOKEH...and yes, its on purpose.
in this case, it all analog...with 2 extra uv filters, and the focus was really on the beach, with a aperature as open as possible, iso was 200 i think, maybe 100,
i have others, but i liked those 2 best,


Shooting long distance like that and getting any bokeh is nearly impossible because its too far away. You can't get the background to blur because its too far away. I think you'd need a very fast, very big lens like a F2.8 500mm or something. Even shooting a fast lens wide open, at that distance, the back ground is still going to be in focus, or the whole pic will be out of focus. To get good bokeh, you need to be up close and personal with the lens set to a very shallow depth of field.
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Pretty much. The main reason it's hard to get bokeh at that distance is because the the subject and background are much closer to eachother than the camera, in comparison to a subject that's 10 ft away when the background is 50.Shooting long distance like that and getting any bokeh is nearly impossible because its too far away. You can't get the background to blur because its too far away. I think you'd need a very fast, very big lens like a F2.8 500mm or something. Even shooting a fast lens wide open, at that distance, the back ground is still going to be in focus, or the whole pic will be out of focus. To get good bokeh, you need to be up close and personal with the lens set to a very shallow depth of field.
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The goal of his photo is something more like this (I'm assuming):


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Whether or not that is considered bokeh I don't know. It is forced out of focus by either forcing the focus distance to be too close, or picking out something in the foreground intentionally throwing the bg out of focus (like he was doing with the beach...). I would consider it bokeh just because it is an out of focus area, which is typically referred to as bokeh (but usually implied to be a pleasant subject isolation).
The difference is the bokeh in the examples communicates emotion and a sense of busy but calm scenery. The shots demonstrated in this thread a) don't really show intentional lack of focus and b) don't really convey or add anything by throwing the bg out of focus.
OP I would throw things way more out of focus (maybe your lens can't do this, but I'd bet even a kit lens wide open set and minimal focus distance could do this) or just try different scenery with some more depth from foreground to background that can show transition. Your shots are just plain confusing.Originally posted by z31maniacI just hate everyone.
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Car looks pretty clean for an auto show but it's always hard to get good shots at those things...
Feel like I haven't shot enough and I'm always on the other end of the camera so took a couple quick snaps today.

Last edited by 87e30; 04-10-2013, 10:16 PM.Originally posted by z31maniacI just hate everyone.
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Since we are talking bokeh, here are few.









Those should do it for now.
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