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  • ThePotsy
    Wrencher
    • Jul 2008
    • 210

    #211
    Originally posted by frankenbeemer
    Bad math.
    48/2(x+3)=2
    48/2x+6=2
    48=4x+12
    36=4x
    9=x

    48/2(x+3)=288
    48/2x+6=288
    48=576x+1728
    -1680=576x
    -2_11/12=x
    "Our mother of blessed acceleration don't fail me now."

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    • frankenbeemer
      R3VLimited
      • Sep 2009
      • 2260

      #212
      Originally posted by ThePotsy
      I like to misquote people
      Where did I say "bad math"?
      Last edited by frankenbeemer; 04-11-2011, 08:57 AM. Reason: to be ornery
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      • ThePotsy
        Wrencher
        • Jul 2008
        • 210

        #213
        Originally posted by frankenbeemer
        Where did I say "bad math"?
        I was quoting the action, not what you said. On iPhone, so my quoting is lazy, and no nice pictures to go with math related posts. *claven*

        Also, 48/8 is not 8.
        "Our mother of blessed acceleration don't fail me now."

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        • Pantless Spency
          It's McRib time!!!
          • Feb 2011
          • 7284

          #214
          math sucks.

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          • frankenbeemer
            R3VLimited
            • Sep 2009
            • 2260

            #215
            Originally posted by ThePotsy
            I was quoting the action, not what you said. On iPhone, so my quoting is lazy, and no nice pictures to go with math related posts. *claven*

            Also, 48/8 is not 8.
            No problem, just confused me. 48/8 does not equal 8. My bad.
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            Originally posted by JinormusJ
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            • tonywonder
              E30 Mastermind
              • Sep 2009
              • 1688

              #216
              Originally posted by ThePotsy
              48/2(x+3)=2
              48/2x+6=2
              48=4x+12
              36=4x
              9=x

              48/2(x+3)=288
              48/2x+6=288
              48=576x+1728
              -1680=576x
              -2_11/12=x
              this doesnt work to prove how the answer is 2 because the same can be done to prove that 288 is correct. the issue is the way we are suppose to read the problem.

              i see it as 48/2x which i would read as 48 divided by 2x

              but what the 288 people are saying is that it should be read as 48/2 multiplied by x.

              which from what i understand would normally be represented as (48/2)x

              we all know the math is right but the confusion is the way we are reading the equation. its ambiguous and needs to be clarified in the original equation. otherwise it cannot be properly solved.

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              • KenC
                King of Kegstands
                • Oct 2003
                • 14396

                #217
                Originally posted by LBJefferies
                92 people failed middle school algebra. Whatever is inside the parentheses comes first then you return to the left.

                48/2(9+3)
                48/2(12)
                24(12)
                288

                288 is the answer and there is no doubt about it.
                2 is a FACTOR of the (9+3). You must simplify this term first. You must first DISTRIBUTE the 2 through (9+3). Regardless of what is on the left, if you have 2(9+3), it must be simplified first and you cannot get another answer than 24.
                Originally posted by Gruelius
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                • ThePotsy
                  Wrencher
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 210

                  #218
                  Originally posted by tonywonder
                  this doesnt work to prove how the answer is 2 because the same can be done to prove that 288 is correct. the issue is the way we are suppose to read the problem.

                  i see it as 48/2x which i would read as 48 divided by 2x

                  but what the 288 people are saying is that it should be read as 48/2 multiplied by x.

                  which from what i understand would normally be represented as (48/2)x

                  we all know the math is right but the confusion is the way we are reading the equation. its ambiguous and needs to be clarified in the original equation. otherwise it cannot be properly solved.
                  Okay, let's try this then:

                  x/2(9+3)=288
                  x/2(12)=288
                  x/24=288
                  x=6912

                  6912/2(9+3)=288
                  6912/2(12)=288
                  6912/24=288
                  288=288

                  x/2(9+3)=2
                  x/2(12)=2
                  x/24=2
                  x=48

                  48/2(9+3)=2
                  48/2(12)=2
                  48/24=2
                  2=2

                  Multiplication by juxtaposition takes precedence over normal multiplication(x or * or •)and normal division(/ or ÷)
                  Last edited by ThePotsy; 04-11-2011, 11:47 AM.
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                  • Conki
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1254

                    #219
                    How is this still going on?

                    2*(9+3) = 2(9+3)

                    2 is a factor? Yes. You multiply 9 and 3 by it. Unless you have another operation to do beforehand.

                    48/2(9+3) = 48/2*(9+3)

                    By using parentheses you don't necessarily need to use the multiplication sign.

                    Check this out:
                    222 = 222 right?
                    (2)(2)(2) = 2^3 = 8
                    2*2*2 = 2^3 = 8
                    (2)(2)(2) = 2*2*2
                    (2)(2)(2) != 222

                    Where are you guys getting all the other stuff from? Srsly

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                    • KenC
                      King of Kegstands
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 14396

                      #220
                      Originally posted by Conki
                      How is this still going on?

                      2*(9+3) = 2(9+3)

                      2 is a factor? Yes. You multiply 9 and 3 by it. Unless you have another operation to do beforehand.

                      48/2(9+3) = 48/2*(9+3)
                      Regardless of what else is in this equation, there is no way to not get 24 from 2(9+3). You need to distribute the factor to simplify before dividing 48 by it.
                      Originally posted by Gruelius
                      and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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                      • KenC
                        King of Kegstands
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 14396

                        #221
                        Originally posted by ThePotsy
                        Okay, let's try this then:

                        x/2(9+3)=288
                        x/2(12)=288
                        x/24=288
                        x=6912

                        6912/2(9+3)=288
                        6912/2(12)=288
                        6912/24=288
                        288=288

                        x/2(9+3)=2
                        x/2(12)=2
                        x/24=2
                        x=48

                        48/2(9+3)=2
                        48/2(12)=2
                        48/24=2
                        2=2

                        Multiplication by juxtaposition takes precedence over normal multiplication(x or * or •)and normal division(/ or ÷)
                        Hard to argue with this.
                        Originally posted by Gruelius
                        and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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                        • Conki
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 1254

                          #222
                          Originally posted by KenC
                          Regardless of what else is in this equation, there is no way to not get 24 from 2(9+3). You need to distribute the factor to simplify before dividing 48 by it.
                          This is like saying that 2+1 is always three doesn't matter what's around it.l
                          Let's see... 3*2+1 = 3*3?? No. It's 7.
                          The 2 is not connected to (9+3). It's just a multiplier. But if you divide a number by that 2 first, as in 48/2(9+3), you have to do the division first.

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                          • KenC
                            King of Kegstands
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 14396

                            #223
                            Originally posted by Conki
                            The 2 is not connected to (9+3). It's just a multiplier. But if you divide a number by that 2 first, as in 48/2(9+3), you have to do the division first.
                            The 2 is a factor of (9+3).
                            Originally posted by Gruelius
                            and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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                            • Conki
                              E30 Fanatic
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 1254

                              #224
                              Originally posted by ThePotsy
                              Multiplication by juxtaposition takes precedence over normal multiplication(x or * or •)and normal division(/ or ÷)


                              "Using juxtaposition for multiplication saves space when writing longer expressions. collapses to ."

                              I interpret this as (2)(2)(2) = 2*2*2.

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                              • Conki
                                E30 Fanatic
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 1254

                                #225
                                Originally posted by KenC
                                The 2 is a factor of (9+3).
                                So? A factor is a constant that can be manipulated.

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