Debate with my roomate: Nascar vs. Rally, F1

[delatlanta1281]

You want to see "real" racing? Group B rally. When they have to end a class because it killed too many people, you're doing something right.

riiiiight cause we all want to see our favorite drivers wreck.
Vlad, you ever been on a track in a cup car? I have, wide open. You would lose your shit. As well as the rest of you all non believers. Is it the most challenging form of auto racing? Not by a longshot. But then again, I don't see any of you douchers out there turning laps.

[E-Thirty]

Apples to oranges. Anyone who actually argues one over the other is a biased neckbeard.

[jasonsnoddy]

Nascar fucking sucks. I dont care how much endurance or training it takes, it still driving around in a damn circle. Therefor, I don't find it entertaining nor do I think its very tough compared to other forms of racing. You want to see "real" racing? Group B rally. When they have to end a class because it killed too many people, you're doing something right.

*Insert flat billed hat and DC shoes joke here"

These threads are so gay. "Which _____ is better guyz?"

Everybody has different opinions, the only point of threads like these is to start efights and up post counts, while letting highschoolers talk about things they have no experience in.

[Raxe]

Nascar fucking sucks. I dont care how much endurance or training it takes, it still driving around in a damn circle. Therefor, I don't find it entertaining nor do I think its very tough compared to other forms of racing. You want to see "real" racing? Group B rally. When they have to end a class because it killed too many people, you're doing something right.

Yeah perfect, any sport that kills a lot of participants is totally awesome. :roll:

[Jand3rson]

Nascar fucking sucks. I dont care how much endurance or training it takes, it still driving around in a damn circle. Therefor, I don't find it entertaining nor do I think its very tough compared to other forms of racing. You want to see "real" racing? Group B rally. When they have to end a class because it killed too many people, you're doing something right.

So I guess Indy is doing something right because Dan Wheldon just got killed, right? Leaving behind a wife and 2 young children?

I guess NASCAR must have been doing something right when Dale Earnhardt hit the wall and died, right?

You're an idiot. 95% of the fucking morons that got killed during the days of Group B were the dipshit spectators who thought it would be a good idea to stand in the way of a 700hp turbocharged race car until it was 8" away from them. Group B ended because the cars were becoming too light and powerful to control without harming spectators and yes, drivers. You clueless kids that think it "isn't very tough" because they're doing laps in an oval are just that, clueless.

[ALYKZANDYR]

One thing most of us can agree on for all three of the racing series is that the cars looked better in the past than they do now.

Modern rally cars all look like brightly colored shoes, F1 cars are now as long as a small bus, and Nascars are a ugly body shell over some tubing with big stickers on it.

all of them T sure looked better 20+ years ago.

[T Verdier]

When did ovals become circles?

[T Verdier]

What's better? Football, soccer, or basketball? There is no valid argument in my opinion.

[Jaxx_]

As much as I don't want to admit that NASCAR is difficult, it without a doubt takes skill. I think that in a general driving sense, rally and F1 drivers are among the elite in terms of driving skill. The reflexes required for rally are second to only fighter pilots and F1 requires precision unlike many other forms of racing. NASCAR drivers are athletes, there's a reason that Jeff Gordon and JPM can switch cars and Gordon can still churn out a lap within the reach of Montoya's FTD at Indy.

With that said, I think NASCAR is the most boring form of racing there is. and F1 isn't far behind.

[T Verdier]

I like f1 but seeing vettel dominate by 10-20 seconds is a little boring, some would even say more boring than seeing cars run around in circles.

[Jaxx_]

What's better? Football, soccer, or basketball? There is no valid argument in my opinion.

that's the worst counter-argument I've ever heard.

A proper counter argument would be:

Horse racing, show jumping, or dressage?

[bme30]

Simply go to Walmart, and you'll know how many of them LOVE nascar

Yup, People of WalMart, they LOVE nascar

[FunfGan]

So I guess Indy is doing something right because Dan Wheldon just got killed, right? Leaving behind a wife and 2 young children?

I guess NASCAR must have been doing something right when Dale Earnhardt hit the wall and died, right?

You're an idiot. 95% of the fucking morons that got killed during the days of Group B were the dipshit spectators who thought it would be a good idea to stand in the way of a 700hp turbocharged race car until it was 8" away from them. Group B ended because the cars were becoming too light and powerful to control without harming spectators and yes, drivers. You clueless kids that think it "isn't very tough" because they're doing laps in an oval are just that, clueless.

I don't think its tough because I've seen purely oval nascar drivers that can't hold their own in karts. Really? I raced a low class 2 stroke kart and can tell you that I'd rather be doing that than competing in NASCAR. Do you have to agree with me? No. I love racing, but oval does nothing for me, with the exception of dirt sprint cars. I love racing that varies its course and conditions.

[delatlanta1281]

I don't think its tough because I've seen purely oval nascar drivers that can't hold their own in karts. Really? I raced a low class 2 stroke kart and can tell you that I'd rather be doing that than competing in NASCAR. Do you have to agree with me? No. I love racing, but oval does nothing for me, with the exception of dirt sprint cars. I love racing that varies its course and conditions.

You're dumb. Most NASCAR champs dominated kart. Put yourself in an outlaw car and see how much your Kart experience helps. In fact, most nascar drivers start in kart. wtf are you talking about?

[trackjunkie21]

I actually drove a stock car up and down the street a year or two back when my dad's friend was building one. Scary as fuck.