Any computer geeks in here?

[blefevre]

Yeah, because you can't "do as much" with a UNIX based OS......... :roll:

[Dermeister3]

What do you want to do to your computer that you can't do that a mac?

Lateral raises
Hammer Curls
Weighted pull ups and push ups
Tricep raises
Free weight row

There's no way a Mac weighs enough to get a good workout with one. They're much too light and portable. ;) My WIN(NING)dows equipped pc on the other hand, great work out tool. It's very heavy and adds to my strength training routine very well.

Man and with the money you saved buying PC, you could install really neat-o LED lights and clear plastic cases to make your PC look faster than it really is!
disclaimer: that machine is most likely fast as fuck, due to it being built in 2011

[tom d]

i'm not a computer geek and i hate windows.

i started with a Mac in 1988 and then switched to windows 98, then vista, then windows 7 and although windows may look similar to mac they do not behave the same. ever tried changing the mouse setting in windows 7? you have to be a freaking computer genius just to find the control panel.

after a winbook and 3 dells i gave up on window based machines and went back to mac. the nice thing about mac is it can be as simple or complex as the user needs/wants it to be.

[nando]

uh, start, control panel, hardware, mouse? that takes a genius?

[blefevre]

Lateral raises
Hammer Curls
Weighted pull ups and push ups
Tricep raises
Free weight row

There's no way a Mac weighs enough to get a good workout with one. They're much too light and portable. ;)

[CCCXXV]

In my opinion, as most people have said, it comes down to the programs you use, what its used for and which OS you like better.

No, it comes down to which OS you like better. There are extremely few programs on OS X that aren't available on Windows 7 (excluding tiny little utility things on the Appstore, of which equivalents are generally either built in or can be easily enabled in Windows - mind you, this is not completely the case, but no one is going to choose OS X over W7 because of those). Either OS can be used for any purpose, and most professional software is platform agnostic.

In my opinion, there is almost no operating system that rivals Lion. The shortcuts, hand motions and just plain lay out set it apart.

I can't argue with that. However, if you aren't used to OS X, why go through the headache and hassle of having to relearn basic computer operation?

If you like having to search all over the place for documents, and the headache of switching between many different programs then the pc is for you. If you like having all your programs made to work with each other, get the macbook. That said(and has been before), some schools can be dickish and make it impossible to use purely a Mac.

That's an incredibly ignorant and fanboyish statement. One software suite is made to 'work with each other' on OS X: iLife. However, unless you're buying a computer to make crappy scrapbooks with, that doesn't really matter; the massively more popular MS Office is also available on OS X - and Office is also a suite of products designed to work with each other.

If you use less programs at once on OS X, that's your use pattern, and has nothing to do with the OS. Similarly, if you don't know how to organize your documents or simply won't do it, it is not the OS's fault. OS X has Finder for that, but W7 has the start button for that.

Lastly what do you use it for, or whats its main use. Design, recording, cad programs etc. the Mac easily rules out. Watching movies, playing games etc, get the pc I guess.

How exactly is OS X better for design, recording, or CAD? There is one piece of software available in any of those categories that is OS X exclusive: Logic Studio. There are alternatives that many would consider better available on both OSes.

Trying to be as fair as possible haha, personally I HATE pc's and would never be caught dead with one. Just the amount of unlinked programs, and the way they work annoy me. Oh, and a Mac won't get a virus.

Your first statement belies your second.

Oh, and with a Mac you aren't living in a bubble. They are more vulnerable to viruses than Windows, but for now at least, there aren't many viruses being developed for that environment.

EDIT: Just a note - aluminum unibody cases are not a good thing. They act as giant heatsinks, and are far more fragile than any plastic used in Windows-running laptops near that price range. Look at Thinkpads, ASUS laptops, Sony Vaio laptops, Dell Latitudes, and so on.

[HarryPotter]

What about grand theft auto and Boarderlands complete with all downloadable content? Right, I suppose GOTY isn't a real game. But whatever, I'll never ever use a pc again. Even the keyboards suck. Again, its your decision, not mine. I'm providing suggestions and help, not trying to sell him something.

So you were playing two games at once? That makes a ton of sense. I think you're full of shit to be quite honest. I like how you threw all downloadable content in there as if that somehow plays a bigger part in taxing the hardware than without.

[FunfGan]

No, it comes down to which OS you like better.

Exactly what I said?

I can't argue with that. However, if you aren't used to OS X, why go through the headache and hassle of having to relearn basic computer operation?

You don't need to, you can still use it like any other computer. Hence why I said shortcuts.

If you use less programs at once on OS X, that's your use pattern, and has nothing to do with the OS. Similarly, if you don't know how to organize your documents or simply won't do it, it is not the OS's fault. OS X has Finder for that, but W7 has the start button for that.

When did I say I had an organization problem? I like being able to access all my documents from any software. When I buy a program from iTunes, I don't have to worry about importing all my pictures and whatnot(mostly pictures)
And again, I just like the OS much better.

How exactly is OS X better for design, recording, or CAD? There is one piece of software available in any of those categories that is OS X exclusive: Logic Studio. There are alternatives that many would consider better available on both OSes.

They're just laid out easier, all professional recording places I know use Mac's.

Oh, and with a Mac you aren't living in a bubble. They are more vulnerable to viruses than Windows, but for now at least, there aren't many viruses being developed for that environment.

ok, so your point? Even if they are easier to hack(and from I've seen and heard, they are not), theres still a fraction of the number of virus' for a Mac than there are written for pc's.

[FunfGan]

So you were playing two games at once? That makes a ton of sense. I think you're full of shit to be quite honest. I like how you threw all downloadable content in there as if that somehow plays a bigger part in taxing the hardware than without.

Sorry, was motorbike, not GTA. And how am I full of shit? Again, I'm not a fan boy trying to convince you you HAVE to buy a Mac, some like them, some don't.

[nando]

raise your hand if you use a Mac for CAD on large capital/engineering projects

*crickets chirping*

[pureaudio]

The amount of complete ignorance in this thread is amazing, I especially love the comment about Mac being more suited for CAD.

[FunfGan]

The amount of complete ignorance in this thread is amazing, I especially love the comment about Mac being more suited for CAD.

I suppose you're speaking to my comment about cad? I didn't say it was "better", I only said that many more people that I know use Mac's for designing and recording.

[CCCXXV]

Exactly what I said?

My point is that it doesn't depend on what software you use or what field you're in, it only depends on personal preference.

When did I say I had an organization problem? I like being able to access all my documents from any software. When I buy a program from iTunes, I don't have to worry about importing all my pictures and whatnot(mostly pictures)
And again, I just like the OS much better.

Looks like you're backpedaling. You said that you would have headaches and hassles hunting for documents constantly, and now it's just a matter of auto-importing? Okay. Change the goalposts all you want. EDIT: Oh, and what software in Windows won't let you access your documents where the equivalent or identical software in OS X will? Please give me an example. At least one. It shouldn't be hard, right?

They're just laid out easier, all professional recording places I know use Mac's.

ok, so your point? Even if they are easier to hack(and from I've seen and heard, they are not), theres still a fraction of the number of virus' for a Mac than there are written for pc's.

There are more vulnerabilities, and they go unpatched longer (in most cases, that is). Safari in particular is insecure as hell. It's true that there are fewer viruses written for OS X, but that's changing.

[Massimo]

Exactly what I said?
They're just laid out easier, all professional recording places I know use Mac's.


ok, so your point? Even if they are easier to hack(and from I've seen and heard, they are not), theres still a fraction of the number of virus' for a Mac than there are written for pc's.

LOL Yes maybe a recording studio might use MAC, but any professional engineering firm will not, in fact any kind of professional will use PC over MAC. Firstly PC are more cost effective you can build allot more powerful pc for the same price as a MAC. Upgrading ram or GPU in PC is usually cheaper, it is also not possible to up grade some MAC's. If their is a professional business using MAC they are not running a very cost affective system. Why do you think there are no MAC made servers?

The myth that MAC's are better at video and photo editing is old. Maybe years ago when they had software that was build to be optimised on there systems therefore being faster then windows based software, but this is simply not true anymore, e.g. CS5 is apparently 5% faster on windows then MAC.

As for viruses there may not be many around for MAC but they are a lot more serious, mainly because people who use MAC don't have Anti Virus software so they are simply unaware of what is going on. Antivirus software for MAC is still very young its protection leave is not as great as a PC, as there are many back doors that have not been discovered or closed yet.

And your argument that MAC is harder to hack then PC and there is less viruses just makes it worse, this would mean that every virus for MAC would then be optimised to do what it is supposed to making them allot more efficient and dangerous. Otherwise why would a hacker write a virus that is allot more harder for MAC for the same results from windows.

[FunfGan]

My point is that it doesn't depend on what software you use or what field you're in, it only depends on personal preference.

So yeah, what I said before, in another post? Stop getting butthurt that some people like Mac's over pc's.