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  • slammin.e28
    שמע ישראל
    • May 2010
    • 12054

    #16
    Originally posted by Kershaw
    you must have missed something big...

    because the g260 is a 5 speed gearbox.
    Weren't we talking about how the Caddy ran a G260, but is now running a 6sp, and in if the G260 fit, why wouldn't a 6sp that took the G260's place in the Caddy fit on the back of an M50/2.
    1974.5 Jensen Healey : 2003 330i/5

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    • Conki
      E30 Fanatic
      • Mar 2009
      • 1254

      #17
      Originally posted by z31maniac
      Not really necessary on any of the popular swap motors until you get to the S54. Engines that don't have a big top-end to take advantage of will likely be slower due to the extra shifting. There is a reason lots of fast drag cars use a powerglide, 1 shift.

      More gears are oriented toward high-reving power plants, not engines with a healthy torque curve.

      Hence a 7-spd DST in the new M3 due to 3600lbs and 295lb-ft of TQ.

      Keep trolling away little one.
      I really liked the gearing in my eta with a 3.73 LSD from 2-5. It needed a 6th on the highway, and I practically never used 1st. The Aisin AY-6 has similar gearing with an extra gear between 2nd and 4th (5th in the 6-speed), and it's 1st is even shorter, so with something like a 3.43 diff the dynamics would be pretty similar, with an extra gear for cruising on the HW.

      1992 BMW 525iT Calypso
      2011 Jeep Wrangler

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      • Kershaw
        R3V OG
        • Feb 2010
        • 11822

        #18
        starter is in the wrong place.
        bellhousing is different.
        driveshaft is different.

        AND the 6 speed that comes in the cts is made by AISIN. which feel great when brand new, but are not durable units by ANY means.
        AWD > RWD

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        • Julien
          R3V OG
          • Feb 2004
          • 7471

          #19
          80s lebarons also used getrags
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          Pamela/Bella/Betty/325ix/5-Lug Seta/S60R/Miata ITB/Miata Turbo/Miata VVT/951/325xi-6

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          • gtdragon980
            E30 Mastermind
            • Jun 2008
            • 1808

            #20
            Originally posted by Kershaw
            starter is in the wrong place.
            bellhousing is different.
            driveshaft is different.

            AND the 6 speed that comes in the cts is made by AISIN. which feel great when brand new, but are not durable units by ANY means.
            I was under the impression that Aisin-Warner was a reputable company with pretty reliable transmissions. The Aisin trans in my jeep is bulletproof!

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            • mrsleeve
              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
              • Mar 2005
              • 16385

              #21
              Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
              Starter pocket is on the wrong side.

              EDIT: Also GM has used Getrag for some time, even in the FWD world. The shop car - 92 GP with 3.4DOHC has a G284 manual swap in it :)
              my brother has a pallet of NEW 284 boxes for his fiero, its going to be a gear box eater once he gets a good tune on it
              Originally posted by Fusion
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              • E30 Wagen
                No R3VLimiter
                • Jul 2005
                • 3425

                #22
                Originally posted by z31maniac
                Not really necessary on any of the popular swap motors until you get to the S54. Engines that don't have a big top-end to take advantage of will likely be slower due to the extra shifting. There is a reason lots of fast drag cars use a powerglide, 1 shift.

                More gears are oriented toward high-reving power plants, not engines with a healthy torque curve.

                Hence a 7-spd DST in the new M3 due to 3600lbs and 295lb-ft of TQ.

                Keep trolling away little one.
                So, with the right diff ratio, could a built M20 capable of high revs take advantage of another gear?

                It would be so cool to have a six speed bolted to a M20, even if the advantages it offered were next to nothing...

                edit: could somebody please explain how to interpret these values?

                M35 Getrag 260
                3.830
                2.190
                1.400
                1.000
                0.810

                M35 Getrag 260 (2003-2004 Cadillac CTS)
                3.570
                2.040
                1.340
                1.000
                0.820

                BMW E30
                3.83:1
                2.20:1
                1.40:1
                1.00:1
                0.81:1
                My Feedback

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                • Wiglaf
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 1513

                  #23
                  I'd swap it. And leave the CTS motor attached.
                  sigpic
                  Originally posted by u3b3rg33k
                  If you ever sell that car, tell me first. I want to be the first to not be able to afford it.

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                  • Pantless Spency
                    It's McRib time!!!
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 7284

                    #24
                    derp.

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                    • Holland
                      R3V OG
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 7176

                      #25
                      You don't want that 2.8 Catera heap, trust me.
                      1985 M10b18. 70maybewhpoffury. Over engineered S50b30 murica BBQ swap in progress.

                      Originally posted by DEV0 E30
                      You'd chugg this butt. I know you would. Ain't gotta' lie to kick it brostantinople.

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                      • Kershaw
                        R3V OG
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 11822

                        #26
                        all the rx8s use aisin transmissions and have a crap ton of problems. im on my 2nd transmission. it has less than 15k and its already worn out. i cant shift above 7500rpm for 1-2 and 2-3. you can say its my shifting (it's not) but this is a widespread problem in the rx8 community. the shift forks are very weak and the synchros wear very quickly. :| the replacement cost me $3500 and it lasted me a year. im not putting a 3rd pos aisin in there. when in good order, they are omfgamazingshiftboxes. they just dont last.

                        maybe a t56 will be the replacement. attached to an ls1.
                        AWD > RWD

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                        • Wiglaf
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 1513

                          #27
                          ah. i must have been thinking of the CTS-V
                          sigpic
                          Originally posted by u3b3rg33k
                          If you ever sell that car, tell me first. I want to be the first to not be able to afford it.

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                          • Conki
                            E30 Fanatic
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 1254

                            #28
                            Originally posted by E30 Wagen
                            edit: could somebody please explain how to interpret these values?

                            M35 Getrag 260
                            3.830
                            2.190
                            1.400
                            1.000
                            0.810

                            M35 Getrag 260 (2003-2004 Cadillac CTS)
                            3.570
                            2.040
                            1.340
                            1.000
                            0.820

                            BMW E30
                            3.83:1
                            2.20:1
                            1.40:1
                            1.00:1
                            0.81:1
                            They are the gearbox input-output ratios in each gear from 1st to 5th. In the E30 for example in 1st for every 3.83 crankshaft turns the drive shaft only turns once.

                            1992 BMW 525iT Calypso
                            2011 Jeep Wrangler

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